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Meet Tara Reed, she's the CEO of @AppsWithoutCode .
After leading marketing initiatives at Google, Foursquare & Microsoft, she built her first successful app, Kollecto, without writing any code! In 2014, she popularized No Code app development when her TED talk on How to Build Apps Without Code went viral.
Tara's work has since been seen in Entrepreneur Magazine, Fortune Magazine, and she was even featured on the Forbes 30 Under 30 list class of 2021!
Being a pioneer in No Code app development, or as she likes to call herself a “No Code Queen”, inspired her to launch Apps Without Code as the very first No Code University to teach others how to use technology to bring their app ideas to life just like she did! No Code changed her life for the better, and she wants the same for all her students!
I remember the hypnotherapy session where I really like cleared a lot and made a big breakthrough. And like if people are listening to this, and I'm like, What is hypnotherapy? It's like a guided meditation. And it gets you just to like a relaxed state where the guards that are standing at the door of your subconscious, they go on break, and you're able to, like actually get in there and work on stuff that you're subconsciously doing, right? Because if you're conscious of it, like Yeah, like it's sort of easy to tackle, but stuff that's happening subconsciously, it's hard to like stop those behaviors because it's just like running on its own. So hypnotherapy allows you to like put you in a relaxed theta brain state enough so that like you can go in there and work on your subconscious stuff. Welcome back to Since3000. I'm Danielle Leslie. And we are here today with one of my best friends in the whole wide world. Tara Reed. And I cannot wait for you to dial into our conversation. We have conversations all the time that go deep and far and wide. And you're gonna see a glimpse into how incredible this woman is. She has built an amazing company apps without code that has educated 10s of 1000s of people, helping them own the fact that they can build an app that they can take an idea and turn it into something that can help so many people. She's also a trailblazer, she was one of the first people to make art collecting accessible to the masses. When I see her I truly see a magician, a maverick all the ends. And because of that, you know what, you know what I also love, what I also love about Tara, so you said this, you are the vibrational average of the five people closest to you. And what you're going to get to see in today's episode is what that truly means. When you're in proximity with someone who's vibrating high. What that brings out of you and calls forward in you. So I am so excited for you to get to know tea even more deeply, you're gonna see this transformation that she's going through our obsession with identity, and all the things so tea. Welcome to the show. I'm so excited to bring you today's episode. But before we do, I need to make sure you've heard about member up. So community driven products are the future. But Facebook groups are a thing of the past. And after 10 plus years in the online education space. I've taken all my learnings and I've built this incredible platform member up. It's a customizable easy to use all in one platform where you can build a premium course community or membership site without the tech headache. Gone are the days of having to duct tape together, your content, your community, your payments, all on different platforms. I want you to do me a favor, do yourself a favor and head over right now to member up.com Ford slash Danielle and you can get started for free today. I promise you, I can't wait for you to see this platform. It's beautiful. Okay, the design is amazing. Your community is going to feel at home here and you are going to take pride in your online business. It is the place to start head over to member of.com Ford slash Danielle. Now let's get into the episode. I'm really excited for people to just listen in on a regular ass conversation that we have, which is always super deep conversations can get a little wild. So very wild. I realized we could take one word and go for like three hours. Yeah, just go deep. Yes. Which is what I so appreciate about you. I would say like one of my biggest lessons has been self awareness and telling the truth in real time. I love how you created these archetypes for our friend group. Yeah. You were like What is vine? I have no idea. I have no idea. The authenticator, the authenticator. Yeah, yeah. To me, what that means is, when you think about the authenticator app, you log in. And you got to put in a code to say that you are granted access to your account, because you've put in the proper code, and you are telling the truth. That's what you do to people when you are talking to them. You're like, oh, no, no, no, no, you haven't shared the real truth. Let me ask you another question to get the actual code to access what's really there. Interesting. So you say I'm nosy. So I think one thing we share in common is like a fascination around identity. And I know you're in the middle of this amazing project. Where so first I want to ask you about the identity you're embodying today. And then I would love to hear about what you're doing right now with identity. Okay, great. Yeah. Good question. I'm working through just identifying the different parts of myself. And where this came from. It came from me like experimenting with dating. And realizing that I have been doing this thing where I'm like minimizing my I fell over simplifying myself for like basic guys consumption. Wow. So I was like, Oh, stop doing that. And it came from having like a couple conversations with people who had a lot of space for all of me. And the contrast of that, I was like, oh, like, I need to step more into that. So I started sort of like journaling a little bit about, like, different sides of me. And the different components of myself and they sort of started forming into characters, like alter egos. And so there's like, thus far, so we're, he's going to be an evolving project, right? But there's three goddesses, a superhero and an inner child. Oh, okay, we need to meet these people telling us Okay, so I'm focused now because we there's a lot so focus on like, the three goddesses. And I think like what I mean by that are just sort of like the Regal myths that I have inside of me. And I thought that there's one there's actually multiple. I, the one I'm probably most embodying today, and they sometimes it's like a mix, but I have like a, like a Earth warrior queen. And usually I use her because sometimes you have to put them on or in the morning, I like Who do I need today. In the morning, if I have like a bunch of meetings, I've gotta like, get through a thing. That's usually the character that I turn on. I have I started making playlists for each of the characters to Oh, so like, on that particular playlist, there's some like, Beyonce homecoming. Yes, there's a song by Nicki Minaj. It's like old one. It sort of she has these like different characters to I don't know if you've heard this where she's like, I'm Nicki Minaj. Nicki the Ninja, Nicki the hair. Boss. She's got like all these. She's the epitome of that. She's got like, Oh, yes. And one song she brings. I'll have that. Like, we're not one dimensional. So I have my like, Earth warrior. I have like a call like a water siren. This is one I've been playing with more. And I read that book pissy by Regina. Mama Gina. I can't remember her whole name. But Mama. Yes. And she had this activity like this challenge to like, because what I noticed myself doing is like, when men would look at me, I would immediately divert my eyes. Oh, wow, for habit. And so the activity was to like, just flirt back and be attracted to just like, when you're at the coffee shop to like him, like embody and be comfortable with your own sexiness. So like when I'm sort of doing that I have this sort of like water siren kind of thing happening. And then there's another one which is like my high priestess abundance queen. It's where like, I feel like I've got like, all the resources, I'm not feeling in scarcity, I get to share with my friends I get to I'm usually like very aligned and spiritually connected. So like, those are my three. And they come and play at different times. So that's what I've been sort of playing around with and working on. I love that. Oh my gosh. So I love how you started the thread. And you said what inspired you was when you were in dating? How you had certain people who could embody all the different dimensions of you. Yeah, and I related to that, cuz I remember writing my journal. How I was looking for a man who could embody all that I am. And I said it takes a whole lot of man to hold all that I am yeah. And it had me think about the Way of the Superior Man and the masculine energy and the feminine energy. And I was thinking that me when I'm in my essence in my being I am well becoming a new person from moment to moment. expressing myself didn't really from moment to moment. And the I Am is truly I am period. So there is no I am this I Am that I Am that because even that is limiting, but it's I am. So I'm like, yo, there gonna be somebody who needs a hold all of this in the evolution. And that is what I'm hearing with you. Yeah, I think so. I'm working on it. I'm playing with it. For me, like the first step of playing around with it. I'm doing like a photo shoot to each of my personas, just to sort of like stepping into it more it almost like occurs to me is like performance art in a way of my of myself. Right. So that's, I'm excited about that. Yeah, this is huge. Because so when we met when you said abundance queen, there's no space for scarcity. Yeah. And I remember to ground it in even your business because people are meeting you for the first time. Like, I want y'all to know this woman is a badass. Talk about like the most amazing, brilliant mind where you can traverse a math equation to building an app, like looking at code, figuring that out, teaching herself all kinds of things. And when we I remember like conversations in our early days So when I first met TI, she was presenting on stage at the Lean Startup conference. And was the only black woman on stage. Did a TED Talk like situation? And I was just like, oh my gosh, who is this woman? And then I remember, you were. So just like, expansive. And when you said abundance goddess, yes, it like transported me back to one of our earlier conversations, because I want to like ground this, I want them to understand the journey, because I've known you for when we meet in 20. Let me think it had to be teens. I was gonna say 15, it was 2015. And so in these years, I have seen you evolve. So I'm guarantee you really are shape shift a transformer. So I want you to share where because we talked about abundance? Yeah, where previously did scarcity show up for you? Ooh. Okay, so scarcity definitely showed up a lot in my business. And particularly when I was starting, I felt that the most when I was starting my second business, when I started out to that code, and I would do this thing where I would have noxious ly, like, refreshed my sales dashboard. I was obnoxiously checking things. Because I was like, the feeling was, like, I'm doing okay, but I might mess it up. So like, let me see if I messed it up yet. Let me see if I messed it up yet. That was sort of where a lot of the scarcity was coming from. And I think it impacted me because there are a lot of decisions that I was making. Were like, I wasn't investing in myself, I wasn't investing in my business. Like I was really like, Let me hold on to what I have. And I got a counter example. And you and I had to do a lot of work. And this because you seemingly right? And it's always like not that way, inside, but from outside. And as your friend like you are really expanding your grow your investing in yourself was the main thing. So like, I remember the time you were going you're working with a lot of different coaches and learning from them and doing all of that and I was like, That cost so much money. I'm not doing that. Oh, no way. And I got to watch you like growing and blossoming in this and myself not. And at first it showed up as some like jealousy. It showed up as like, oh Daniels doing that, that like it showed up in like a shadow way, like a nasty kind of way for me. And I had to get real with myself that like, I'm not mad at Danielle. She's not doing anything wrong. I'm mad at myself, for not doing those things. Like you gave me a mirror of my own scarcity issues. And I remember specifically, there was a week where I have made that was my first time making like $100,000 in a week. And I that week, I was supposed to get my nails done, but I was like, Oh, I can't get my nails done because I want to do a little design on it's gonna be too much money. wasn't gonna be Oh, no, maybe like $40 $50 It didn't make any sense. Dollar week $1,000 week, I can't get my nails done, right. And that's what I was like, Oh, I have a problem. Like there's a thing to work on here in my relationship with money, my relationship with success, my relationship with abundance. That was when I got really clear, but it was all happening like around that time. And I had found a I get referred to a hypnotherapist to work with. I didn't end up working with that hypnotherapist because I thought she cost too much money. I know. And then I happened to meet another woman who happened to be a hypnotherapist, and I was like, here's your window girl, like you're not gonna do it again. Don't do it again. It's a growth opportunity. And so I decided to work with her. We were working with me for some months. I remember the hypnotherapy session where I really like cleared a lot and made a big breakthrough. And like if people are listening to this, and I'm like, What is hypnotherapy? Like? I know, when I think when I used to think about hypnotherapy, I think about like, you know, the first thing was like the cloud, like you're getting sleepy. Yeah, it's not that it's like a guided meditation. And it gets you just to like a relaxed state, where the guards that are standing at the door of your subconscious, they go on break. Oh, yeah. And you're able to, like actually get in there and work on stuff that you're subconsciously doing, right? Because if you if you're conscious of it, like Yeah, like it's sort of easy to tackle, but stuff that's happening subconsciously it's hard to like stop those behaviors because it's just like running on its own. So hypnotherapy allows you to like put you in a relaxed theta brain state enough so that like you can go in there and work on your subconscious stuff. So that's what I was doing. I remember I had a specific session where I The big breakthrough in my relationship with money. And so I was imagining myself because you're just imagining yourself doing stuff. Sometimes I'm imagining myself, I have to go back to like five year old Tara and ask her what she needs from me in order to like, go on, was it called like to retire from this decision, because like a five year old decision is not helpful right here, you grow now. Or sometimes I'm like, imagine something more abstract. So this particular session where I made a big breakthrough with my relationship with money, I was imagining myself in a house. And my hypnotherapist asked me to allow the energy of money to come in. And she's like, what does it look like? And for some reason, in my subconscious brain, the energy of money, it's like a pink Pepto Bismol colored blob. But if you like overthink it, you knock yourself out. So just let it go go with the blocks go the block. So okay, so since she's like, okay, expand it, like make it a bit bigger, because it was sort of like, this big, it wasn't super huge. And we expanded it, and I kind of was like, in the corner, getting kind of squished and feeling uncomfortable. And I realized that I could like lean on it a little bit. And it was like squishy was bouncy. In fact, like, I could like play with it, like bounce on it, actually. And so like jumping like bouncy house jumping on it. And like, oh, like it's not like it's like can be playful. It's it's light, it's playful, I can manipulate it, I can move around with it like, it's fine. So I'm getting comfortable, like jumping on this pink blob, it's filling up my living room in the house. And she asked me to expand it some more. So now my only option is to expand the whole house. The house has to move. So I imagined myself expanding the house. And we do that a couple of times. And I'm kind of like my subconscious was getting I don't know, for some reason why that worked. But my subconscious got there. Like it can be fun. It can be playful, you can just expand it if you need more room. It's not a big deal. And that really like helped click something for me. But it's been a journey for me obsessively checking everything and worrying about everything, too. Sometimes I still catch myself do that. And I just have I can like let it pass now like, oh, bird looks great. I don't have as much attachment to it. But it's been it's been work. Oh my gosh, that was amazing. Wow, that you helped me. You helped me that you gave me like an alternative to like what it could look like? Do you ever feel like scarcity like that? I feel like we all have things that were like, our strengths or weaknesses that occurs to me is one of your strengths. If you're like I'm comfortable, I'm held. Does it feel that way? You know, hmm, that's so interesting. How do I experience scarcity? So Wow. I think how it occurs to me is, I've been bumping up against this a lot lately. So when I think about the book, The Big Leap, I think hitting the upper limit. I think that helps me articulate how I experience it. So you're right, I'll be the first one to drop money on a mastermind, like tempt me with a sale, I will give you the money. And I may or may not go on the trip that comes with the money, but I'm gonna give you the money. So in those situations, it's a yes. I would say I guess where I experience the scarcity is an I guess what I see as possible for me. So when I think about everyday waking up, and knowing I really can dream, the bigger big be the bigger me do anything. Even like moving into a new industry. I guess that's when I experience it. Yeah, it gets scary. When I know it's almost like it's one of those shows. It's like the should conversation. I'm like, I should be able to see myself as this person who can dream, the bigger dream. Yeah, and know that I can do anything. And when I'm not, I shamed myself for it. And I'm like, why aren't we like, what are we hitting up against? I've been referencing like, JLo a lot. It's like JLo to me is the embodiment of being the cause and the effect I think Dr. Joe talks about when you are we a lot of times as humans think about If This Then That. Yeah. And I think he talks about you seeing yourself as the cause. So I think what that means to me is she walks in in her Versace dress, and she's like, this is what we're doing. And then Google needs to invent Google Images, because so many people are trying to search for this dress. Yes, the embodiment of being the cause the effect. And when I think about her, I'm like, there. I mean, obviously, I don't know her. But it's like, when I think about that, I'm like, Okay, how can I get into the Versace dress? And just walk into whatever room and say, This is it? We're here? This is what we're doing. Instead of being like, should I wear that? I don't know. I don't know if that's Yeah, I haven't done this yet. Am I doing too much? What are people gonna think? Yeah, that's my favorite one. Like I'm doing I think I'm doing too much. Yeah, that's real. And I guess for me, it's, I'm not doing enough. And I don't know why I can't. It's I'm not doing enough. It's interesting how, like, we can all have a story and narrative, right? I'm not doing too much doing enough. And it sort of equally gets in the way. And it's just sort of this like, voice in the back of your head. And we're all just trying to develop this muscle of like, looking at the voice be like, Thank you for your opinion. But that voice is not you, right? It's just like, it's, it's the insecurity. It's a doubt. But like, it doesn't have to be you. I love that you're working through that. Yes. Oh, my gosh, I think I loved when you shared the story, speaking about the different voices and versions of ourselves. When you shared the story of how you visited, I think it was your eight year old self. Yeah. And you had a conversation with her. And I remember, at first I would love for you to like, share that. Because it was a couple of weeks after that, that I was able to visit with sixth grade Danny, in a hot yoga session. And I was in a meditative state, the music was playing and I was laying flat and all of a sudden I was there and it was real. And that lent to like sixth grade Danny is living 60 year old Danny is living. They're all living in different dimensions. We're in the eternal present, I can visit them at any time. I can have conversations with them at any time. And that was my first moment visiting with her. And I went right into my bedroom. And she was working on the science project and protozoa. And she was in the gifted class Dr. Burch and she felt the weight of the world like it was Do or die with this project. It was a three panel cardboard thing. And she waited to the last minute she was shaming herself. She was feeling bad. And it was that stress and weight of the world that I saw shows up and drives the bus. Yeah, as the grown ass Danny, and feels the way to the world in the stress and anxiety. But it was because of the story you shared of you visiting and having a conversation with your all about Tara. Thank you for reminding me. Yes. And I was able to hear something in that moment. And now when I'm feeling it, I'm like, Oh, God, it's it. Great. Danny says great. And he's comments. You trying to drive the bus? And let her know. We're good. Because in that moment, I told her like, You're so good. Yes, so good. Like you are so good. Like, you're good. That's beautiful. This conversation to reminds me how important it is to like vulnerably share what you're going through with your friends, because you don't know what's going to inspire them to go like do their version of whatever that looks like for them like their work. And if you're not sharing vulnerably with your friends, you almost are like robbing them from a learning or experience or a thing for them to get because like I didn't know that impact you like, I'm glad I shared it now. So I think what you're talking about is an I did we both did the landmark forum. Yeah. Which is like a life coaching program. And so in that program that was really like my catalyst for doing a lot of personal work. In that program, you sort of identify a moment in your life where you made a decision about yourself. And usually there's one like very young mine was like pre kindergarten was the first one I can remember. There's one another one I think they say like for women, it's usually like middle school ish. And for guys often like early high school, where you make a decision about yourself and then one like an early adulthood. And I'm not really sure my early adulthood one but I know my first two and the second one is where I had to go do some work that you're referring to. The first one was I was in pre kindergarten I had this friend named Erica, who had she just like learned some like racist stuff from her grandmother, who was raising her and so we're playing and like we're pretending to be the princess and she told me that I couldn't be the princess because I was black. And I'm a tattletale, so I cried with the teacher. The teacher handled it really well. She was like no tearing up the princess. She's like she's all the colors of the rainbow put together. She's a different kind of Prince. This and my like, how will the pre kindergarten I want my four year old brain was like, Oh great, my values being a different kind of Princess. That was what I got from that. Right? And so it's good and it's bad. The good part is that like, I've essentially got to do something a different way. I've got to build a company called apps without code, I've got to like, do the contrarian thing, right. And it works for me in a lot of ways. And also, sometimes there's a way that stuff like it works that way, right? Like, there's a way that works well. And you can just do that. You got to make a trade on everything, on everything. So like, it's a strength, and it becomes a weakness, but it's a thing that sort of running. And then the other one was in middle school, I had this scenario where like, there was a guy that I was taking to really small schools, there's a guy I was dating, like, middle school dating, so it's like, yeah, I was dating. And then he was dating my friend. And he had tried to, like, you know, kiss me or something when they were dating. And I told her, and she blamed me and had all the girls in the class, stop speaking to me for the rest of the year. And I decided that I was going to like, well, like, there's no one talking to me. So like, let me go to like, study hall, and like, I'm gonna work really hard to get into this competitive High School. And I decided in that moment that like, I don't need friends, hard work can be my friend, subconsciously, it wasn't like consciously deciding these things. So the instance that you're talking about, I went, I essentially was doing it through a meditation, but I went to my eighth grade classroom, and sort of stood in the back of the room. This was my, one of my first experiences was really about time traveling and meditation to going back in time. And so I remember in the meditation, I'm sitting in a chair, and I go backwards in time to this moment, and I'm in the back of the classroom. And I didn't want to, like get too close to myself, so I knew I was gonna freak myself out. Right? So I just sort of set the energy of like, you're okay. It's gonna be alright, you got this, you got it, and sort of sent that reassuring energy to myself, but like, that was for sure. I think the instance that I told you about, and I was like, Danny, I did try time travel. Tell me. Yeah, that's right. And that was I think, like, I was really just starting to get into Dr. Joe Dispenza. His work instead of his meditation retreats and stuff, and I was having those experiences. It was like mystical experiences in meditation through that. Yeah. Oh, my gosh, that's been huge. What I have seen in myself, is this change in how I define success for myself? And you know, it started with growing up whatever the Northstar was it said you are achieving. It was that thing. So first, it was the 4.0 it was being president of every organization, prom queen, ASB president ICC president, then having a business it was revenue. It's like, Oh, of course. This is the new Northstar, its revenue, how can I make the most money? And it wasn't until I was faced with you know, breaking up out of the seven year relationship and saying, Okay, wait a minute. First, who am I without this person? And then I need space to answer that question, which means I need space for my business. So who am I without this business? Who is Danielle? Without doing unless, of course from scratch? And in that inquiry, my Northstar shifted. And I think first it went from the revenue to then saying, what does it look like to work 10 hours a week? And committing to that, and then three months making that happen? And now which shifted to self expression? How can I be my most fully expressed self from moment to moment, and that is the new barometer for success for me in my life. And what I want to know is and we're gonna get into the the masculine, the feminine, because as a very masculine and feminine shift. But I want to know, like, how has your definition of success because you've achieved so much like it's wild, it is wild. So I want to know, how has your definition what do you deem as success? Where did it go from whereas it shifted to? Yeah, I think I relate to what you're saying about like, where it started, right? Like starting around, like, gotta get this grades gotta get into school, got to like, do the things that you feel you're supposed to do. I know like growing up, my mom gave me like, you know how they have the ranked list of colleges. She gave me that list to put a line underneath where she went. It's like anything above. Wow, anything above my mom. at USC was like, Oh, it was room. So I think like that was sort of what I had gotten. And I think it was all good intent on her behalf. But my mom is definitely thinking about ROI and her investment. Where's my ROI? And I think after you like, check enough boxes like it gets boring, is boring. So I found myself getting bored at a point of the like accolades Oh, like, this sounds very privileged to say, but it's like another article is not going to be that exciting, like another list that I'm on. It's not really that exciting. And it really to me as well is about like self actualization, self expression, becoming the highest version of myself the most authentic version of myself, we're talking about being the authenticate me, you are sort of saying I'm asking other people questions to get them authentic. Like, it really comes from me feeling now. So Miss, I feel misaligned. If I'm not being authentic, and I'm not around people who are also being authentic, so like, I will stay here and work on it until it feels a line because otherwise I'm going to feel like uncomfortable. I feel uncomfortable. And so what I've been doing is sort of just creating these little challenges for myself of getting more self actualized of asking myself like what would future terror like what's something that future Terra is already doing? That current eras like terrified to do, but future to era feels like it's no big deal. In crafting these little challenges and quests for myself to step into those things. Like, I'll give you an example. Last year was the first time we had like a big potential acquisition conversation, a company reached out, we were talking about potentially selling up to that code. And as we were talking, I realized that the way that I feel about myself and my worth, like, I couldn't even imagine what my life would look like, if I had that dollar amount in my bank account. I couldn't really like wrap my head around that. And so I was clear, but like, I can't even confidently have this conversation. until like, I'm that future version of myself, that I'm gonna step into eventually. And so I crafted this little like challenge for myself. So I was like, what would I do I get like really pretty house in LA and I would have like a really nice spacious like dining room where I could like host dinner parties, and where I can like be nosy with all my friends about all their lives. And also invite new people and interesting people and be nosy what she knows, she knows, you know. So um, and and there were other things I would like something that I eventually took off the list. But there I was experimenting, like, I will get my makeup done every day. It turns out that I didn't really like that I like makeup that much. But that was on the list. Yeah. Let's try it out. I had like a list of things that I would do. And then I booked a flight to LA to go do those things. So I like went on Zillow and like reached out to some properties. I totally couldn't afford to go tour and go see them to just like let's make it comfortable and feel normal. I like hired and makeup artists to do my like, look for a little while, like I was doing those things so that they felt like no big deal so that I could easily make it happen. Because when you feel like it's a big deal, like you block it. It feels unreachable. You're blocking it. It feels like nothing. If you've what was the like to tour the homes and were these like $2 million homes, million dollar homes, half million dollar homes. What did that feel like? Okay, well, I went in thinking like, Oh, I'm gonna rent a place and I had a rent budget. And I went to go see the rent budget places. I was like, oh, no, this is not what I was talking about. Like if we're gonna do this and like actually do it. Yeah, it was like, Oh, actually, at this point, it wouldn't even make sense to rent like people at that point. You just buy and if you want to move you sell it and make a little bit money and just buy another one. So I was like, okay, like, let me look at things for sale. And so they were like $5 million $6 million houses. So how did it feel walking through there? Knowing Okay, future Tara's trying this on? Yeah, well, I like nice stuff. So once I got in there I feel comfortable. Yeah, yeah, I actually didn't feel once I got there. I didn't feel super intimidated on the plane on the way that like everything leading up to it felt really intimidating, but once I was in there, I didn't feel super intimidated. And I kind of at that point was like you're in it now. Just fake it till you make it can you can afford this house just you know, go look around see it? Yeah. But I think what it did was it gave me a clear like vision of where we're going what's possible, and there were some things on that list that I took off because like this isn't Even me, I don't even care about this part, take this off. I'm an ultra homebody. So like my home and my space that, you know, some of those things stayed on there. But I think those are some examples of things that I have been working on to just like get to a more limitless version of myself because those things have that's not possible. That was like limitation I added. Alright. And we're talking about self expression, self actualization becoming the highest and best version of yourself. Like those have been some little challenges I've been giving myself also the challenge of the characters and the versions of myself and just expressing that without worrying about am I doing too much, it's, uh, you know, so that those are kind of like examples of things I've been working on to, to really like undoing stuff and doing stuff you've learned. To get to you get to me, it's been proven that procrastination can be one of our biggest enemies to success. Now, contrary to belief, procrastination is not based on a lack of time management or organizational skills. Procrastination is directly linked to to our emotions. Now, the reason I know this is because of Patti Johnston. Patty Johnson is incredible. She's of course from scratch, remember, but even more importantly, she's built multiple multimillion dollar businesses once she learned how to overcome procrastination. 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What your birthday celebration was like, Okay, great. The challenge for my birthday was to get out of my own way about what other people were gonna think. So even though in reality, like all my friends were happy to just like, do whatever and celebrate my birthday hit me with it, whatever was it what other people were gonna think or you were gonna think? Well, it's really like, what I think that you're gonna think because you probably not even thinking my reality. Right? Right. So it was really like, well, I thought that you were gonna thought we were gonna think it was like a whole way I had created right? And this is quick sidenote, a thing that I'm working through right now. Because I see this in like family members. And like my mother in particular, our see where I got the like, oh, you created a whole nother reality web of something's happening. Something's not but like, that's the thing I'm working through in general. But in this scenario was like, Don't worry about what they think create the experience that you want. And that is an expression of you. And to celebrate your 30th birthday sort of us. So we went to Dominican Republic. I randomly felt called to go there. I do not know why I didn't really second guess it. I was like, Dude, that's the answer. That's what we're gonna do. Not overthinking it. By the way, like I overthought a lot of things, so I'm gonna make it seem like, I'm very grateful that my friends have flexible track ability to travel because I sent that invite out, like real late. And the reason why was because I was like, Oh my gosh, I don't know what they're gonna say. So like, Thank you for coming. Um, and so we went to the ER, we had this really beautiful villa. Yeah. It was just us. There may be seven of us something like that. Seven of us. And okay, we did all kinds of things. We had like a sort of visioning of our next cells ceremony that we did. And we even like each we kind of all were given a card cosmic did this. Someone came in to do this with us. And so we were each given a different expression format, song, dance, or rat Spoken Word and Word. Yeah. And we had to, like create the thing about our future selves. That was so good because it was a mirror. In particular for me, yeah. Because she gave us this and it was so uplifting and it was like great. And then he said, Once we got the assignment I shut down. I remember I met. I was I was like, I already it was little Danny being like, I'm overwhelmed by this challenge. I feel the pressure. It has to be perfect. I don't know what I'm gonna say. I don't know. I'm gonna write I'm gonna nap. I'm gonna go to sleep. Yeah, so it was so amazing. Shawn's gonna come out he's gonna have a full production. full production he did. He did. So good. Yeah, yes. Okay, so like we did that activity. Um, we I think I like created my like high priestess abundance clean persona in that activity, actually. And then we also had, we like, went on this like, plantation, a lot of land was like a cooking class. And we're like learning about their culture. We also what else do we do at a clothing optional pool party. So fun. Was very meat. Yeah, absolutely free. Absolutely. We did lots of sin. notae Oh, we did the dinner and just to notate. And then we did us there. Like, walk down the stairs. And it was like in the middle. Yes. And there was like water at the bottom. We're the only ones in there. And it was like, the the rock was lit up was like a blue light. And we just walked up the stairs as the live music. The live band was playing just for us just for fun. And there was a table and there's like a body of water and surrounded by rock formations. And we're in this in North Bay. And there's a table just press. Yes. And there was dinner. The food was amazing. Well, like we didn't need it. We don't need another level. We want another level. That's quite good. Later, we took it to go. Everything were like they were really worried. Right? They were worried everything was okay. Yes. We were having a good time. It was good. Yeah, it was good. And then we had the dinner where we dressed up as like the celestial versions of ourselves. Yes. Yes. Shawn sent me to plan for the party. He sent me questions will questionnaire and one of the questions was like, how do you want people to feel when they arrive? And how do you want people to feel when they leave. And I really wanted people to feel like they stepped into the next version of themselves. Like I didn't want to just be my birthday. I want it to be like our birthdays. And it was like a portal. That was the intention. And I didn't tell anybody other than Shan Shan knew. But anyway, that was the intention. And afterwards like that's what everybody was saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. Can you see birthday Abadi? Is that visible? I love that. Like we're talking about your birthday. And that everyday like, you turn that into a birthday for everyone, because everyday truly is our opportunity to be reborn. Rebirth. Like you open that portal and you made it not just on your birthday, but it was a reminder like every day can be that portal to be reborn and rebirth. Yeah, I tried to create like portals for myself often. I travel a lot. I feel like the easiest placement for me of a portal is when I'm leaving a trip. And like our friend group, we like meet up quarterly maybe a little bit more often. We all live in different cities that satellite events, and then we have satellite events. That's right. That's right. I just came back from a satellite event in Aruba. That's right. And even from the satellite event that I just came back from I just flew for a robot like today when I was leaving. I was very pensive because I was like, what did I learn what was there for me to get? For me it was like being with so I got my mom invited me on her girls trip. And I was like, I'm not gonna go on your girls trip. But at the same time is your girl's trip. Where's the girls trip was in Aruba? Oh, God, it was her girlfriends. My mom's girlfriends she invited me but I was like, I don't wanna be on your trip. I'll come same time. I'll be adjacent to your trip. Because they have like a strict agenda. They're like we have lunch it we have to have like facials not facials they have like dress up they will it's nice the White Night and we'll do the photo shoot and then it's a too much but I got in like being with my mom I got a good mirror right of like things that I see in myself both good and things I want to challenge in myself and so I was really pensive about that this morning and that was a portal for me to write it was a reminder to be kind to myself it was a reminder to like not create too much story about what's happening what's not happening. And I got a mirror and I got to like journal about it but that was a portal for me to write I think like life is always during you portals you were seeing Monsters Inc. That movie. We've got the like, don't like it. Like, you know, you go to the cleaners and they've got that like, yeah, dry cleaner is the revolving dry cleaner thing. It's like in monsters and there's a bunch of doors on it. And they're all portals. So it's like a revolving thing of doors. And I think that that's always happening. Like there's always a portal there for you. And like most people just never open any of the doors, they just kind of like sit there and watch, the portals come past. And for me, I've committed to like, let me go through as many as I can, because as soon as you go through one, you're in another space, and there's another conveyor belt of doors like it's never ending. And you get to like, grow because as you go through them, like, you get power ups like a video game, like you get bigger, you get stronger as you go through these challenges in these gross moments. And so for me, I've committed to like let me open up as many doors challenges on my for myself as possible. But the portals are always there. You have to like do a big birthday for the portals like the portals there. I love that. As we were saying that I had a visual and as you're opening, the doors are getting closer and closer to the center. Like the center. What's in here already? Yeah, like getting closer and closer to the center to like the essence the purity the truth? Yeah, have you? Yeah, that's right. That's right. And it requires doing a scary thing, because I think like in it, I'm like on Monsters Inc. Now, there's like a little monsters are at the door, like the scary guys are at the door. So you have to like get past the monster, right? Everyone Target and I talked about this often of like getting past the monster too. But like you get past the monster and you like get points and you get like bigger and stronger, you get like a bad power pack of extra skills that you then get to like go into the next thing when I often talk about the different levels. This is so interesting. And I think about like Mario Brothers and how you would go through the leveling. And you get to the end of the level. And it was linear because it was an old school game and you're linearly going and you reach the end. And there's a boss that you need to defeat at the end of the level. And you defeat the boss because you gained all these points and you got some things and you got you got the mushroom or whatever. And then you defeat the boss. And then you level up and you go to the next level. But guess what? You get to the end of that level. And there's another boss, a bigger boss, they get bigger. You get less scared, maybe to be right. Sometimes you write you feel scared doesn't go away. And there's times when in my life. I thought I defeated the big boss at level four. And then a year later, I'm like, wait a minute, this the same boss, I thought I defeated but we hear we hear again? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, well, like kind of comes up differently. Because I don't know that we ever like when we're doing our personal work we ever, like get rid of a thing fully, we get rid of a scary thing, we get rid of a trauma and who ever get rid of it, you just kind of like, get as much as you can weed it out. And it usually comes back in some capacity. Except the next time you can be like, I know, I know what this is, I seen this weed before I'm a name for the name for it, you have some tools for getting around that you know how it operates a little bit until it shows up differently because it would come back looking different. But you have a little bit more tools. One of the things that I'm still working on is finding this balance of masculine and feminine energy in, in my business and also just my self expression. I think self expression and business are now starting to like merge a little bit more. But that balance has been something I'm working on. And I have on my whiteboard like sticky notes of like quest that I'm on things that I'm working on. And sort of stepping into my feminine is one that I had to be intentional about doing. Because leading up to here in my career, I've relied a lot on my masculine energy to like, get it done. Whereas the spreadsheet where the numbers, I was making decisions, maybe they weren't intuitive base intuition base, can you break down? I think there's a lot of definitions about what is masculine versus feminine, that can sometimes get tied up in gender norms, when really they might be a little bit different. So to break it down in your terms, what is when you talk about masculine, feminine, what does that mean? Okay. I think when I think about feminine this is a good question. Because so many people are like, Oh, pink, right? That's feminine, right? What I think about feminine I think about intuitive, creative, wild in a good way. Like I think we have a negative connotation. I love wild, right? I was about to get a tattoo that says stay wild. Like of course you were you know, I'm saying you didn't get it? No. Was good thing I didn't. I was too while somebody write it and they're writing and get it. It didn't it may or may not be in my life forever, you know, yeah. embodies stay wild, right. That would have been wild. Wild. Um, you know, we can do it another way. Ah, yeah. So like intuitive creative. And by the way, like men have that do we all have masculine and feminine, right. And then when I think about masculine I think about like, like decisive structured, I think about like, organized in a way. And we all have that too, right? We have both. And for me, I think the messages that I heard growing up and in business and in starting my business was like the thing to do to be successful as being your masculine energy. I don't think I like heard that literally. But that was the message coming across. Yes. And I had to make an intentional choice to explore more of my feminine, I think it started off the wording I was using was become more, and I've shifted the word and to explore more, because I felt, here's what the journey was, it was like it was really in my masculine making variable. That was how I was running my business, for sure. And then in experimenting with being more of my feminine, it was more of like, what is my intuition, say, and I would like lean on, for example, like Angela, who runs my marketing and my team, like, I will often say, like, here's what my gut says about what we should do, can you run the numbers to go see, like, if it supports that, but like, my, here's what I'm feeling. Or I've been working on this project to design a new software and we're gonna get together and like a house, and sort of creatively design all of it right? And, and so I'm creating more spaces for myself to be like, creative to be in my intuition. And it doesn't have to be make logical sense. It can make illogical sense, right. I think like a lot of people think like the word illogical is a bad thing. Like sometimes there's no not a whole rhyme or reason, it just feels right. And for me, I hit a point where my business was no longer fun. And the shift of me being more in my feminine, made it more fun. I got back the joy and being more than that. And I was exploring that in like all areas of my life, not just in business, but it kind of important. So I love this framing of how we are taught that masculine energy is something we can harness to achieve success. When I think about reading do less by Kate Northrup, that was like a turning point for me, where she broke it down to where are mostly like, I would say, the Western culture in America, where the work day was actually designed around the man's biology. Yeah, like a 24 hour, kind of Exactly. They have a 24 hour cycle. So the cycle we usually talk about is the woman's cycle, which is a 28 day cycle. Well, we don't talk about as men have a cycle to it. It's a 24 hour cycle, right? So we have we both have cycles, but our 28 day cycle, aka our period, we go in there, yeah. Looks like for one week, I may be lethargic, self doubting out of it. Scattered mind, the next week, I'd be super creative and want to do all the things. The next week, I'm super productive high energy bubble by the next two weeks like that, that is a 28 day cycle. And for a man, and that is you know, estrogen lead for an individual who has testosterone, they are in that same cycle, but it's in a 24 hour period. So for the first two hours of the day, they're lethargic, they're just waking up. The next eight hours is hyper productive. Go go go with boop, boop, boop. And then at the end of the day, it is maybe a little bit creative. And then we're going to wind down. So it's in a 24 hour period. And guess what, that matches a workday? Yeah. And guess what? That doesn't match a 28 day cycle? Yeah, that over half the population has. And so I found myself plopped into a world that was not created or designed with me in mind or by me. Yep. And we're like, we need to show up every day, and produce on that schedule. By 10am. Pop it out by 6am Be ready to check out maybe 3pm LOL. And that was such a turning point for me to realize, Oh, my goodness, no wonder I have to like, Will myself and force myself and all the things. And I remember when I was working my full time job, like calling in sick, and it oh my god, this was such a big moment. I was working at a startup and I came back into the office and I had taken off the previous few days. And I remember his name was Kyle and he was so sweet. One of my co workers, and he's like, You were out. And I was like, Yeah, you know, I was sick. And he's like, like, emotionally. And I was like, Yeah, I don't even think I was aware that I was out because I was emotionally sick. That I was depressed was which was probably linked to me feeling shame around the fact that I was feeling tired that I was having crying I'm sorry, I was feeling lethargic. And I had these like scattered thoughts. So in reading that book, I was like, oh my goodness, we have a completely different biology that is not supported by this. All the institutions in this world that we've created, which is one of the beautiful things about running our business. But it was interesting, because when I first started running my own business, I was still subscribing to this world that was not designed for me to thrive. Because how would they know? And so it wasn't until recently, when I realized, Oh, my goodness, like we can actually have a conversation and be open that here's where I'm feeling. Here's where I'm at, let's design my month around. Yeah, what's going on. So years ago, I hired a coach to help me with this name is Shara. And she helped me map my menstrual cycle to my like, work calendar. And so she helped me see that there's like eight different phases that I'm gonna be in throughout a month. And if I can, you know, there's some days where like, there's a thing you have to do. But if I can predict, as a business owner, move my calendar around, there's different phases for different things. So there's a phase usually like, right, as my like, period is like ending, or I'm in like, she gave me like muses for them, right? Like people. So like, it's my Serena Williams, five, like, I'm ready to like, hit any of the balls, like I'm ready to go focused, right? And there's periods where I wouldn't even call it like, I've been challenging myself around calling it lethargic. It's like I'm integrating the information. It's not time to be doing a thing I'm processing I'm channeling. That's the time for that. And there are times where I'm super creative. I'm in my like, JK Rowling. That's her name. Yeah, JK Rowling. So she gave me these like muses for each of them. So I can know who I'm channeling at each of those phases. But that made a really big difference. And I'm actually really glad that you said that, because I almost forgot that. I used to be like, Oh, I gotta do this thing today. I mean, there's something that you have to do today, it happens. But in general, I'm trying to like ride a wave and surf. So they I know that that there's a big project for me to do. There is for example, a proposal after right? The wave is gonna come or I'm super inspired to do it. Yes. And if I try to force it right now, it's gonna take five hours to do. If I do it, when the wave is here, maybe 2030 minutes, boom, boom, boom, I'm in and out, right? It's gonna be like, inspired, it's gonna be easy. And so in general, I tried it that requires you to work in advance, rarely can't wait last minute to do it, because then you're like on a time crunch. But if I can work in advance, I can ride waves better based on where I am and where it's in flow. And that that for sure has helped me a lot. Because I'm not interested in the forcing of it just makes it harder for everybody. Right? Oh, my gosh, I love this. Just the importance of the people closest to you. So Helen is my Chief of Staff. Yeah. And she's my right hand person. And I would say she is one of the first people in my life who has consistently asked, How are you feeling? How does this make you feel? scheduling things like this. I remember last year, we did a photo shoot. And I remember her planning it around my cycle. Like thinking me letting her know. But I think what it also takes us for us to be self aware and to say this is going to impact us, but also to have the people around us to ask the questions and give a space and permission to say that yes. So what was a part of the equation was oh, okay, our cycle is starting here. PMS is going to be the week leading up to it. What happens during PMS typically, now can I be my highest self and you know, be meditating and transcendentalist and and all the things? Okay. Yes. And in that state, we may be we may be good. We may be Gucci however, we may not be Yeah. So to plan for that. And knowing Okay, well, this is going to be the week leading up to it. Let's do it the following week. Because that week, I'm in bed watching TV, right? We own Netflix, Netflix, I love TV. So I think also as entrepreneurs, as women, as men, whoever, yeah. For us to realize, like the importance of having people in proximity who are actually checking on how are you feeling? How does this make you feel, and being able to create situations for you to win? Yeah, without even needing to ask. Yeah, that's right. And if you don't have that, already, to ask for it, right. Like I remember a point with my team where I was like, I'm gonna be sort of so We're seeing a little bit more intuitively. And I remember a point where like, they're like, why are we doing this? And I was like, it's I didn't feel comfortable just saying like, it's gut. I felt like oh, that's like, pointed, oh, good, explain or justify. And I had been leading that way, like a more massive way up to that point. So it was It felt different. And I had to get comfortable just saying like it just like, that's what feels right. Because the thing is like, is when we have superpowers, right, that how it feels is a superpower. It's not a distraction. It's not a like, inconvenience, it is a superpower. Because our feelings are the compass. It's like, no, no, no, like, when you feel bad, it's because you are on the you're going the wrong way. It's the compass. So so that is a superpower and checking in with yourself, like you're saying and having people around you like that's leaning into that superpower that we have. Yes, I love that you called out. I'm hearing this distinction between body and mind. And we went to a human design workshop, of course, we like nerding out on the human design. And so there was one in Brooklyn a few days ago. And he made that distinction between the body and the mind, we are trained to really uphold the mind as a superpower as Yeah, all logical, I figured it out. And I thought about the way it was raised. And I was like, oh, yeah, I was raised, to be rational to explain, be able to explain things. And what I'm learning is that statement of it doesn't feel right is a complete sentence. Yes. And us owning and embodying that is the first step of us saying no, this doesn't feel right is a complete sentence. And then helping educate those around us why? Then going back to the explaining, we don't have to explain why. But, you know, just just telling them that you're gonna be doing that, yes, that I'm going to be leaning into how I feel about it. And you say that that's enough. We can also educate them on you know, the distinction between mind body but but, you know, once they know, it does keep it. Yeah, that's right. That's right. I had hired a therapist, this is like a massive fail on my part, because I fired him. But mainly because he was challenging me, it was a lot. But what I got, he was trying to help me. So mainly, I asked him to help me be more in tune with how I feel about stuff. This was really in the height of me trying to step more into my feminine. Because that distinction of like mind and body like are very much in my mind. And still am and a lot of ways. And he gave me a new distinction. Two that like feelings is actually a feeling in your body. Like you can say I feel sad, but you like a feeling actually feels away in your body. So he was saying, I'm not going to ask you how you feel anymore. I'm gonna ask you where you feel. And that took me like a couple of weeks to like, even understand what he was talking about. Like, what do you mean? I feel fine. I don't feel anything. But like sort of unspoken? No, actually, I feel a little like tension here. Or like when I end. So it's really like, where when you ask stuff, how you feel where the first thought goes and your body, right? That's where you're feeling a thing, like wherever it goes instantly. And sometimes it's quiet your mind to get there. And so it took me a couple of weeks even like get to this. But that sort of is talking about what you're talking about of like how you feel not just like, I feel happy, I feel sad, but you also like feel a thing in your body. And that's another level of like really tuning into it. Absolutely. And I think it's when we say this doesn't feel right. What I want to caveat that with is there's also the work that comes with that, to understanding the why. Because I thought when I said that I was like oh, but that that's me having a scapegoat being like this is real, right? I'm not gonna do it. Yeah, that's true. And we need to do the work of understanding Oh, is this sixth grade Danny shown? So it's all yes. So just so that he doesn't feel right because there's trauma and that we need to work through. But at least we know the distinction, mind body, all of that. I love you. That's something you were the first person I think to say that to me as a friend that I return. I love you. Oh, I do love you. Yeah, I didn't know that. Absolutely. I want to tap into what's true for you right now. And I would love for you to share your truth. I'm a lot and that's beautiful. Cheers to that. I love Yeah, this was your truth. This is my show. I don't got to share you rubbish. I am grateful. I'm so grateful for your friendship. And if you're sharing yourself with me and your gift with me, and really, really grateful, you continue to teach me lessons, even when you don't realize you're teaching me lessons, you respond to how I'm feeling what I'm thinking before I even say it. Did Oh kiddo. I'm happy to be your friend. Because we are on since 3000. We're going to do drunk in future. Ooh, you're going to hell, our futures. We're going to intoxicate ourselves by our futures. Okay, I'm here for this. Let's go. So feel free to talk about terror in the third person in the future. What is Tara doing, where she at what she got going on in her life, what it looked like, okay, so I immediately thought about, I was talking about how excited I am to be like, 60 my locks are getting kind of gray. I feel like I'd be sexy with some gray. And I'm like, hitting that point where like, I don't give a fuck, I don't care, you won't hit that yet. I think there's another level, there's another level of like, I'm 60. And like, you can't tell me anything. And like, I'm confident regardless, right, so like, maybe I can get it early and get it early. I host really great like events and parties with my friends and people I love are still small groups because I don't be like in everybody. But I'm with people that I love and got lots of freedom and understanding of each other. And I have sold a couple companies by now and I get to like sit on board and advise cool things and cool projects and I get to like fund my own creative things that I'm working on and like they just give me life and energy to be in my feminine and creating that could be like software businesses could be like just performance art definitely performance art. And I'm doing what I'm getting ready to do which is every quarter I get a house in a different part of the world and invite friends to come hang flew switch it up. But I still have a home base probably in LA both of those things all the above because you know abundance. Yes. And I have impacted and helped so many people particularly inspire them to do their like introspective personal growth. And I've created abundance and freedom for my family and future family I did this activity is like imagine you're 90 and you're sitting in a rocking chair. What do you want friend and family to say about you? For me? It's really two things that I like created financial opportunities, I change the trajectory, the socio economic trajectory of my family. And also that I I did my introspective personal work people are like, no, no, Tara did her work, and that she shared that with the world. So I really am in the middle of doing those two things. Thank you for sharing us your years are now because your show I would love to share. Danielle is fully self Express. She's definitely still expressing herself through her clothing, her fashions, dressing in themes, going to themed parties, creating themed parties to where she can dress up. And others can inspired by Shawn, inspired by her friend group already. Yeah. Shawn is there Tara is there our friend group is there. And Danny has a book and has talked on a lot of stages. I actually want to do that. Right. And I think a lot of collaboration just I have done things like this, where I've let the world in on the intimate conversations where so much growth happens and impacted the way so something I think a lot about is what are the things I wish I was taught when I was in school. And with the world evolving so quickly. I'm like, what would it look like to bring all my friends and have them teach different things. So by this time, I've had kids and they've been taught by my friends. Because my friends have done the work my friends are self aware. And I brought them in to teach my kids I probably world schooled them. So we've lived in different places around the world. And I've had my friends come in and teach them at those different parts community community and there's no separation like they're 14 but they feel like they're your peer because we are talking to them because guess what? They came here with the same amount of wisdom Knowing that we came here with, we just happen to be in these physical bodies longer than them, but there's so much we can learn from them. So they're interacting well on TT as a peer and like, hey, on TT. So can you tell me what you think this means? Is the sky really blue? Like what does that mean to you? Sometimes it's green. Exactly. It depends on how you're looking at it, what time of day, what's your mood? Like? Because that's going to impact how you see the world you're in. So I see all those conversations happening. That's great. I've never heard you share that before. Thank you. That's wonderful. Well, thank you so much for being here. This was amazing. Because we have conversations like this all the time. Yes, we can really go deep. And go far. There's even more I wanted to talk to you about but I had to reel it in. And I'm just glad that the world got to get a peer in on this conversation. But also in your evolution as an individual, there is so much that you've already contributed to this world. And you're just getting started. And I love watching you blossom. And so for everyone watching, they're going to want to know more about you and what you're doing. And where is the best place for them to find you. Probably on Instagram. So at Tara Reid underscore r Ed. And then I also run a company called apps without code which you can also find on social apps without code. Yes, thank you. Thank you very much for coming. Fun. Yes. We did it. I love you. Since since 3000. Yeah we did. We were only three shore. Okay, that's not bad. Oh, wow. Dallin. Do you remember when you came to LA and we were supposed to do how many 24 We were supposed to do a lot. I feel like more than this. And he came and it was like two days blocked off. And on the first day we start filming and I get on to like the fourth video. And these are like five to 10 minute videos. And I'm just in my head doubting myself. And I was like this delta do. You're doing great. No, that was so awesome. Like what you did? And I was like, no, no, it's not right. And then I was like, I need a break. I go upstairs, I cry my eyes out. And then my two team members consoled me. And then I was like, tell them to go away. Oh no, no, no, honestly, though, before you went upstairs, your body language changed. And I knew you needed space just to take a break. Here with an EQ, right. Oh my gosh. And then they're like, well, we'll just you know, see how you feel and play by ear and then we call the whole next day off. So we got like four episodes on like 24 or something. But just to show the evolution I did II like you know, the day before. I was like, you know, I was partying. So I was regulated on the nervous system. I didn't know myself I didn't have the Self Mastery I have now that sounds minor de tal is so nice and refreshing to see you be who you are. Like it is just something to to create an opportunity for us to the rest of us who are trying to walk the journey that you have already led yourself through. And even though you're still evolving, you being vulnerable and sharing your story gives us an idea and a hope that thank you for doing thank you so much. Well, friends like t have helped accelerate this process. I was just thinking I'm really glad to have people around you who are like getting give you the long winded feedback, because I'm like it was good. Day told me I text like a dude, she's like she really does emojis. It's a long man. No punctuation. No exclamation points. No energy. You started adding emojis though. You started because you told me my emoji game was slacking. I'm like I know her but I was like we were on a group text and I was like, she's mad so I texted her. I was like, I was like t this person. I was like this person thinks you're an asshole. Can you like add an emoji? Y'all know what I mean. All right. Oh, I love you. That's all One thing you were the first person, I think to say that to me as a friend, that I return I love you. Oh, I do love you. Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Love you, girl. Yeah, can not touchy factor thing we're not really but like, yeah, love you know, love you long time. Listen, sometimes life be life in and we do not know what's coming down that road next. Well that's what happened to me in 2016 when I was unexpectedly laid off from my job, and I was six figures in student loan debt, I had no savings, and I didn't know what was going to happen next. Now luckily, I had this little voice inside of me at that time that I couldn't ignore, and it was telling me to take the leap. It was saying, use this as your opportunity to build your business. Use this as your opportunity to create your dream life. And so I believe that life happens for us, not to us. And that nudge in my spirit, I should listen to it. Luckily, I did. 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