When you see the documents when you know the plantation, when you know the city, it changes you, because it's no longer just about you. And you look at your family tree, and all of a sudden there's like 30 people you don't know. But they're the reason you're here. So what are you carrying forward? Right? It's not just you. You're carrying all of their hopes, dreams, everything. They fought, they died. They toiled in fields for me to be here. What do I get to do with that? That's a gift, right? Do I waste it? Or do I use it? And so I think it's just so empowering to know and I believe you pray to the gods you believe in who? You pray to the God Do you believe in pray to the gods. Yeah. So for me, I pray to my ancestors. And now that I know their names, I pray to individual ancestors. We are here on since 3000. Welcome, welcome. I'm here today with Brittany Jones Cooper BJC. My fellow Aquarian Sister, I'm so excited to bring you in on our conversation today. So when I met Brittany, I was just so impressed and inspired by her. She is the epitome of your walking and talking vision board. So she started her journalism career. When she she wrote on her vision board when she was 17, that she wanted to work with Katie Couric. If you know anything about journalism, you know, Katie is the pinnacle. And at the age of 21, she was interning for her in New York City by 23. She was working directly with her since then she's had an illustrious career. She's interviewed some of the biggest names you might know some of them John Legend Gabrielle Union, she's currently producing a show with Will i am. And more importantly, I just love how spiritually connected she is. So in today's conversation, you're gonna get to hear from someone who has truly created the life they see for themselves, and is also in tune with her past and understands how important it is to know your past to know where you're going. 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Your community is going to feel at home here and you are going to take pride in your online business. It is the place to start head over to member of.com Ford slash Danielle. Now let's get into the episode. When have you jumped off the stiff board into the 10 meters in your life? I have looked a lot. Yeah, I made an agreement with myself when I was 18. That fear was going to be a part of it. Right? What happened to 18 where you were like fear is gonna be a part of it. Because I was in Nebraska. I was born and raised in Nebraska. And so I wanted to live much bigger. And I understood that pursuing that was going to require me to leap. And there's just so much fear. So it's like fear is always going to be there. And at 18 I had the wherewithal to think fear can stop me or it can propel me. And I just decided that I was going to let it propel me. You know and so I just started leaping into things that excited me. So the first time I really exercise that was probably at 23 When I moved to New York City and I graduated, it was a recession. There wasn't a lot of opportunity. I was like I just got to be in New York. So I found this job mentoring kids in the Bronx city here. I just found a way to get here. But I had $1,500.08 100 of it was already promised to my apartment. Oh my gosh. And my mom was terrified but it was not discouraging at all you know cuz she's always been really supportive. And I just let and it was probably the biggest, scariest thing I've ever done. And now we've been here for 13 years and I can see that it's you know, it's paid off but certainly it's been an up and down journey as it always is. Especially in New York right New York challenges you more than any. Absolutely I love in Eat, Pray Love how she has a word for each city. Yeah, the energy of each city. So when you thought about New York, what was that word that encapsulated New York for you? abusive boyfriend? Oh, tell me about that New York beats me, cuz it loves me. Oh, right. Okay, New York is gonna make you strong. You know. And at some point, you have Stockholm syndrome because you're like, I should leave here. Everything is so hard. What is Stockholm Syndrome? It's where you love your captor? And you're like, No, I'm happy here. And it's like, no, you're getting beat up every day, you should leave. But in that you learn so much about yourself. And it pushes you into challenges you. So really the word for New York is is evolution. You can't come here and be the same person you were. And most people come here because they don't want to be the same person that they were. Right. So that was my case. I wasn't even. I didn't know really who I was before I moved to New York. You know, I think in Nebraska, you're just in this Midwestern culture where you're just going along with it's a very white culture. I'm just trying to fit in. I'm navigating a lot and providing a lot. I'm not figuring out who I am. So New York was just that, that first opportunity to do that, which can be scary. Yes. So when you figured out who you were at first, who were you who was Brittany at first in New York, the job? Ah, so what was the Job? Job? I was Katie Kirk's assistant at the CBS Evening News. Katie Couric. Yeah, she's like the she for me is our top female journalists ever. I think she's just incredibly versatile. And one of the smartest people easily the smartest person in any room. So yeah, it was really high platform, CBS Evening News, Katie Couric. I was her second assistant. After a year I became her first assistant. And just walked her through wrapping up her time there releasing a book, like there was it was such a high level of performance. And it scared me I mean, six months into that job and six months into New York, I put myself in therapy. Wow. Oh, okay. So therapy is like later to me in my life. Only in the past, like three years. Where was therapy introduced to you? And where were you like, Oh, God, this is for me. Like, when did you even get introduced with it are so good for you for going to therapy? Yeah, it was I just want that. To Yeah, we all need to go. And encouragement is important. I think it's, I mean, just like we'd have personal trainers, or if we just go to the gym on our own. I'm like, they're like the therapist is for our spirit, mind, body, spirit. Everything. Yeah, just the same way you exercise your muscles, right? I went to therapy because I was I was really struggling. I was really falling apart. I started having panic attacks. Because I was working in this media world that was very fast paced. Mind you. I'm 23 from Nebraska. Okay. And I'm working now appeared in one of the biggest CBS TV news with Katie Couric. Great. So there was a lot of adjusting and I didn't, I wasn't kind to myself yet. So I wasn't like taking time to house have self care. And to make sure that I was taking care of myself. I was just working in six months. And it started to catch up with me. So I sort of had this moment where in there's been some mental health issues in my family. So I've always been kind of afraid of that and aware of that. And when I started having the panic attacks, I thought, well, I guess I gotta move home. But before I do that, let me go to therapy. Let me give myself a chance. Yes. And so when you say panic attacks, can you describe what would happen to you? How did you know you were having a finisher and it gets your heart racing, dry mouth. And when your mind is just stuck on you being the worst? You know, I just wasn't enough. I didn't feel like I was enough. I started having panic attacks, attacks, trying to get dressed in the morning. Because I was young, I was black. I was poor. And I was going into an office where everybody had money, and everybody was white, and everybody went to an Ivy League school. And I can fake the confidence all day. But getting dressed in the morning became an obstacle because I was gearing up to go into that space where I didn't feel like I was enough. So going to therapy, all she did was give me permission to ask for help. And to let people know that I was struggling because I thought I moved to Nebraska I did this big thing. I leapt off this cliff. I've got to do it. You know, and she was like, No, you don't. It sounds like your friends and family that want to support you. You should talk to them. You know, you should let them know that you're not this iron. And I was like, okay, cool. And it just like my life opened up. So I think it's beautiful to go to therapy at any age. I love that I went at 23 because I got these tools to navigate my 20s where I could actually be engaged in my growth instead of just things happening to me all the time. I started actually participating and trying to see what was happening. You know, that awareness that we've talked about you and I like that started to kick in after therapy. Wow. Yeah, one thing that fascinates me a lot is this concept of time travel and being able to like collapse time. And the way I think about it is embodying your past, present and future self. Now. And so I'm curious, when has there been a time when you have collapse time, whether it's in your personal or professional life, and embody just every Yes, and maybe something that would take most people 10 years to do in one year, or some people would take a lifetime. You do it in three months. It's hard. I always go back to work. That's yeah, that's your so when people say work, and I remember there was a time when I was like criticized that I work too much. And I was able to recognize that my work, it's not for everyone, but my work is just an extension of me. It is my self expression. So there's no such thing for me is like working too much. Or like work being a thing where I'm like, I can't reference that as an example. Yeah. So my impression of you is that it's the same for you like your work has been an expression of your gifts. It's your way to share your gifts with the world. So that's how I feel really? Yeah. for that. He's such a part of me. So when I got you know, I've always wanted my own talk show. I grew up watching Oprah. Oh, my gosh, she's my North Star. Did you watch? Um, I just watched 3pm on I think it was like channel seven, ABC her show? Did you watch it every day, every day after school? Wow. Yeah. And I was like a real, I still seek knowledge all the time I study for fun. So I just loved everything she exposed me to and the creating a safe space for conversation, which is something that I'm carrying forward and want to continue to do. So I think, a moment when I sort of collapse time, and everything sort of fell in line. And I could just feel in that I call it my frequency was when I started my job at build series. And it's a long form interview series. And I was doing 123 of these live interviews a day. We live interviews 30 to 45 minutes with a live studio audience. Wow. And the guests. You know, we were on press tours. We were getting huge guests I interviewed, you know, John Legend and Gabrielle Union and Queen Latifah, and, you know, Cate Blanchett, it was phenomenal. And in that I was so excited for the job, but it's not like you can be bad at it. You know, it's like you have everything's live. So I had to get good really quick, really, really quickly. And there just seemed to be this frequency I was in where I did maybe five. And I looked at them. And I was like, these are trash. Because I was acting. I was like, I was very aware that I was on camera. And I was very aware of what I was doing. And I was trying to be too protective. And I was like, you know, what, just be who you are, be who you want to be. Just be you. And the moment I lucked into that, and I let my goofy side, you mean, I can be a little nerdy and like make use voices and be a little like dad jokey. And when I started letting that stuff out, everything lined up, and I realized it was like, Oh, this is little Brittany. This is where I'm at now. And this is the woman I'm becoming. And I literally, it's all happening at the same time. And I was growing in that job interview to interview it was like, each time, it was getting better. I was learning something, I stopped watching. And I was just living it. I still haven't watched 98% of my interviews. Because that's not what it's about. It was about being in the moment, walking into the guest creating the safe space, and fulfilling a dream. But also like starting a dream. You know, it was everything at the same time. It was like a springboard. It was also like the culmination of all the studying, I've done broadcasting school, the jobs I've had up to that point, you know, but then it was also setting the tone for the show that I want to have. So that might be like the best example where I felt like everything was, I don't know, in in the state in line in this frequency. Is that kind of what you meant? Yes, absolutely. I'm curious what is your moment, when I think of my collapsing time moment, is when I came into building my course business and didn't have expectations on how much I would make it was essentially I love doing this, let me keep doing this. And then got into it. And I guess it was like what I was able to generate. So like the 20 million in four years. But I look at my process during that time. And I think it was the one I think about with like aI how we know it stands for artificial intelligence. And the way I define it is like optimal efficiency. Artificial Intelligence is when we have reached that point with machines of optimal efficiency. Just working in harmony, and when I relate that to humans, what is our AI, optimal efficiency operating? It's when we are in alignment, Mind Body Spirit, and our intentions match that so that's like alignment intentions is like our AI. So I think the period of my life where I was in that was when I did landmark and you didn't do landmark I forget okay and my big takeaway from that was the power of keeping my word to myself. And I really honestly, like people would say, you know, you speak it into existence. And that was just like a cliche. It was never something I thought much about. And I never realized, like, you can create anything with your word. So after landmark is when I said, Okay, I'm going to, I got involved these coaches, and they had grown their business to a million in six months, and it was a brand new business. So I worked with them. I did the things. And I added this layer of, I'm gonna keep my word to myself. And I said, I was going to do a weekly webinar, that for most people is probably like, I have to do the same thing every week. But I'd never done the same thing every week. I haven't brushed my teeth every day. You know, I'm saying like, how can you donate my cat? Danny? Don't tell people that. I'm getting better. I flossed last two nights in a row one so we're making, like, you know, we're getting older we're counting on our teeth are like, aging. And it feels good. I'm like, What does your dentist like? Gosh, I mean, when I was younger, I have plying like great reviews from the dentist, I'd be like, no cavities. I was like, I'm a plus student, every aspect of my life even want to go to the dentist. But then as an adult, I kind of fell off. So the brushing the teeth, you know, not every working on exactly flossing, you know, so this weekly webinar was a stretch for me. But I did it. And I did it for every single week. And the next year, in six months, I generated a million dollars. And so what I learned is like, okay, when we are in alignment, we make the decision we drop in and every morning, we're like getting clear on our intentions, and we're reconnecting to our purpose and everything. That was it. For me, it's a choice and that, what are yours discipline? I'm like, You were both Aquarius is I have a funny relationship with that word discipline, right? Not like to live same thing every day for who exactly is that? Value is freedom. Where's the freedom? And I learned there is freedom, that discipline, I don't have freedom without discipline. Yes. Right. So what does that mean for you, for me, health, I had some health struggles. That floored me and made me wake up and pay attention and realize how important self care was. So for me, working out is not an option. It is a necessary part of my success. I'm gluten free, dairy free, I eat clean, it is a necessary part to my success and my mental health, your gut and your mind are connected, right? So if you're all stressed, and you're eating like crap, like I'm I get depleted so fast. So the discipline of eating right, working out, waking up journaling, meditating, when I do that consistently, you can't tell me anything. I'm so locked in my confidence is not something I have to think about. It just oozes. But when I fall off of that, start falling into bad habits. It just starts falling apart. And then my confidence starts spiraling, my anxiety starts rising, I start questioning more. So when I started realizing that discipline was actually the secret, it was like my cheat code, you know. And once I kind of cracked that it helped tremendously. So I don't have like a consistent life necessarily, but in my routine, I've realized that discipline is important. But yeah, I'm still like, I don't plan things more than like week or two in advance. And I'm a spontaneous trip taker and my work schedule, sometimes, sometimes in the middle of the I go to pottery for three hours, you know, love it, and then come back and work at night, because that's what I wanted to do that day. And I love that I have that freedom. So I'm with you. Yeah, so important. And so tell me about pottery, because it sounds like like, I know that that was like an addition to your life, I think like during COVID, post COVID. So what role is that playing in your life? It got reenergized during COVID. I grew up in school, they offered like, once a semester, you could take a pottery class. So I did that growing up and I loved it. My mom still has my pottery up in her kitchen. Oh, it's also bad, but I love it because I can turn my evolution, which is great. But for me it was during the pandemic, my job got taken away from me that job that I just told you that I loved so much went away, because there was no longer live audiences or live shows. And with that, like I really honestly wasn't working because they were just like, we don't really have anything for you to do. So I had to fill my time with something and I started doing pottery once a week on the Upper West Side with a with a bunch of older white ladies. And for me, it's meditation. And for me it's therapy. So when I'm in there creating I put on my music and I'm literally creating something from mud. And it is deeply meditative. I don't think about anything else. I don't think about the weight of the world. I don't think about the things I want to accomplish or haven't accomplished. I am making a bowl out loud, you know what I mean? And it's a good bowl, and I'm gonna try to get the ball thin and give it the best I can. And think about pottery is it's impossible to We perfect it pottery. It's beautiful. Like, you can make this dope bowl and like I did it perfectly, and then you glaze it, and you mess it up and you're like, I did it wrong, and it's gonna come out weird. And then you get it out of the kiln. It's the most beautiful thing you've ever seen. And you're like, that was a complete accident. I've women at Pottery all the time. They're like, how did you glaze that? What did you do? And I was like, I don't remember. It just happened. And it teaches you to surrender. It teaches you discipline. It teaches you focus. I mean, you've got to get your hands on something is my philosophy. I think we have idle hands. And that causes a lot of problems. So for me, it is my it has been therapeutic. And I think, certainly during the pandemic, it saved me in a lot of ways. It just gave me a place to go and a clean place to create and just be myself and like wabi sabi, you know, and I feel like it. It's perfect because it came from you. Yeah, like, that's what I'm gonna show up here with a bowl next time. Here's a spinning, it's like in Ghost. Yes, it stands. When I find a boyfriend. First, you're gonna tell him wherever you go. I will follow and then pottery bowl. Put your hands around mine. Patrick Patrick's needs new recipes. I love Patrick Swayze. That was a man. Yeah, it was your jam. Yes, everybody. Yes. Yeah. Okay, back in the 80s. Yeah, I'm saying he had a moment. I was wondering. I love it. I love the recognition for the moment. Yeah, but I think you have for me, I think you had to find different ways to express yourself. It was really easy to put it into work that came naturally. That's what I wanted, when work was taken off the table. And this is where I think therapy at 23 helped me is because I realized I wasn't the job. I thought I was a job. I wasn't the job. There was so much more to me. I'm an artist, I can make pottery. I've taught myself how to play the bass guitar. Yeah, I was like more involved with my family. I'm an auntie. And like, it's a very important role for me to be an aunt. So just like engaging deeper in these other parts of myself that maybe I hadn't fully paid enough attention to, was the gift of the pandemic for me. So, yeah, I think it's like, I love my job. My job is a part of me, but I am not the job anymore. And that's, that's been a big growth moment. I think, I love that I went through that decoupling of my copy from my work, job, and myself. Because whatever the work goal was, was also me. And so if I missed the goal, then I felt less than and that was the huge learning moment for me, was the decoupling It was after my relationship ended. Because then I decoupled from a person who I was referencing for seven years as Who am I who am I not in reference to this person in reference to this person? And then same with my job. And so when that decoupling happened, then I was like, you know, I need some space on my own. And so I think I was almost like, you know, forced to, it just happened naturally to decouple from my job as well because I said, Okay, I need to travel, figure out who I am. But that was such a beautiful process, because it was no longer like, who is Danielle Leslie the brand in relationship to her business? But it was like, not just like, who am I? Who is Danny, who am I? So who is Danny? What is my spirit animal? They were giraffes. And maybe they are now again? Why a giraffe. So when I think of giraffes, they are elegant, elevated, they are high. They have that aerial view. They're not in the weeds of things, but they are always like zoomed out. And the altitude up there. There's less noise. And it's like, there's this piece. And it's like, every step they take, they may take one step. But it's a huge step because of how elevated they are. Whereas those closer to the ground may need 20 steps to take that one step. And I think it lends to, like Deepak Chopra talks about the gap. And Dr. Joe, I feel like talks, talks about it as the space between but the gap is that moment of silence. It's stillness. And there's so much I think we don't give stillness, the credit. And we don't realize there's so much activity growth in the stillness. So anything about a giraffe in that one step there is so much growth from that elevated state. That's powerful too. I mean, I've been on safari and seeing them so everything you're saying is really resonating like watching a giraffe walk through the Masai Mara is like this majestic beautiful Yeah, wow, you really like okay giraffe. Okay, Do you have a spirit animal, I have to say maybe an elephant. Elephants are wise, intelligent, knowledgeable. Wisdom is very important to me in my life. They are strong, powerful, and family oriented. They really prioritize community. Again, I've gotten so far and seen them in community and I come from this really big family. And we were in Nebraska. And we were like, the only black family in Nebraska. It was like, my family and Gabrielle Union's family, basically. So family is like such a grounding important thing for me. And I think elephants really embody that so beautifully with how they take care of each other. And they're so strong and so intimidating and so gentle. At the same time, and I think that describes me a little bit. So yeah, probably an elephant. Yeah, who you said family a few times. Like, as an aunt, like family, it sounds like it's becoming more part of like your identity, and like, what season you're in. And it made me think of a question that my best friend crystal asked me, which was like, you know, what season are you in? I found myself in, I was like, taking on all these new projects, because that's my default. I'm like, oh, let's do more, let's do more. And like, Oh, my God, we're gonna achieve this strategy. This, I started feeling a little off balance. And she said, like, just pause, and you know, what season would you say you're in. And it's interesting, because family is a big part of I think the season I'm entering. And I'm like, calling in family like creating my own family, also, having my friends become my family getting closer with my family. So I'm curious, like, what season are you in right now, I like that you say calling in I call it creating space for because you when you're single in New York, you're in this mentality. And there is this, I think you have to change your mindset. So I family is so important to me, like I said, and I do want my own family one day, but I realized I have to start creating space for that. And part of creating space is maybe doing a little less work, and investing more into my friends and family and investing more in that nurturing, loving side that I haven't fully embodied because I was in this really ambitious phase. So I think I'm more sensitive now. Much more gentle, much more vulnerable. I think art does that. I think art helps you get in touch with that into your hearts. I think I function with my mind just fully before. And now I'm trying to lead with empathy in my heart more. And that's shifted how I move in the world. So my season is similar to yours. I think I want to be creating space for a family of my own. And if that doesn't happen, I have 17 nieces and nephews, oh my gosh, we really do have a big Yeah, nine siblings. And, you know, for my family living in Nebraska, my nieces are biracial. I'm the only black aunt. And it is an important role. When I when I come home, they immediately react to me, they love having me in their lives, you want me to do their hair they want so like if I don't have my own, I can invest in grow in that and create space for that. So I think I'm just hopefully just a more gentle person. I just feel more nurturing and, and embracing that and not seeing it as like a weakness. Whereas maybe before I would have, which is such a divine feminine characteristics, exactly the nurturing Yeah, you've suggested I read that book. And it Oh, yeah. But yeah, man. And it really did just helped me put a name to a lot of the things I was already experiencing, or this new season that I'm heading into, like, oh, yeah, art, beauty, music. I've been throwing myself into that. That's changed me and like, organic level. And I'm a different person now. And I I approach my family and my loved ones differently, more nurturing more. It's a beautiful place. It makes me very happy. Yeah. And I love that nurturing is a word I think you described used to describe the elephant. Yeah, it's like you are truly when you were talking. I was like, Oh, I saw Britney as the elephant. Yeah. And right now, so you have this amazing career that you've wielded for yourself. Been an example for so many, like upcoming generations, people who are wanting to do journalism, wanting to do storytelling, wanting to like connect with people on a deep level. And I love that you said you're calling in also this element of family, and it's related to most recently, you've gotten really interested in like researching your ancestry, which was so fascinating to me, so I haven't even done ancestry.com I'm not even like that's like barely the tip when you are ready to do yours. I will walk alongside you. Fascinating to even go with people on that journey. So I love when we spoke about it. You came over and you were here for like four ours and did the hookah, we watched drunken history clear pathway cake. isn't about Aquarius, you brought the cake? Yes, thank you and you share it. I love how you shared and just reminded me of the importance of knowing where you came from, and how that impacts where you're going. And it's been a reminder for you that this is actually helping you, like propel you forward to your future. And it's showing that connection of past present future. So I'm curious, like, what like, what kind of research are you doing? And like what of the learnings been? Yeah, it's such a powerful experience, Danny, like, I can't wait for you to when you have the time, and you ready for it, you know, because you got to be ready for it. My mom started the genealogy stuff. So she passed down a lot of information to me. And I just started picking family lines, and it did ancestry and just sort of digging into it. And I think you know, when you see your ancestors names on a slave registry, wow, when you see the names of the people who owned them, because you saw the physical like you saw the doc documents online, or you went to the library? Yeah, like a national library, we're like, would you just sit at the machine. Like to the library, like when I was in, I would have been up in a library, I told you about like to study stuff. I know everything I was like in my living room just typing away. When you see the documents, when you know, the plantation. When you know the city, it changes you, because it's no longer just about you. And you look at your family tree, and all of a sudden there's like 30 people you don't know. But they're the reason you're here. So what are you carrying forward? Right? It's not just you, you're carrying all of their hopes, dreams, everything. They fought, they died. They toiled in fields for me to be here. What do I get to do with that? That's a gift, right? Do I waste it? Or do I use it? And so I think it's just so empowering to know and I believe you pray to the gods you believe in? Oh, say that, again. You pray to the gods do you believe in you pray to the gods I believe in. So for me, I pray to my ancestors. And now that I know their names, I pray to individual ancestors, what are some of their names? We've got Nettie and Ari, we we've got London and Rachel. Eva was a boss, my grandpa, even my grandfather's mother. I mean, this is rural Savannah. And she was just a boss, you know, she maybe didn't always participate in legal activities. But she was running things and taking care of her family. And she's just like this fierce warrior woman. And so if I need to channel some strength, and like Eva helped me out. Because I know that I maybe got that from her. Wow. So that to me, it just helps me, you know, empower myself. And I pray to them. So that's been a cool thing. Also, I have some ancestors, ancestors who were Ichi Gullah, which is this community in South Carolina and Georgia. And essentially, there's music, food, culture, there's a whole culture that I've descended from, that I didn't know about. And so it's like, we've been cut off from so many things that inform who we are. Some of the food and music I already love. And I'm like, oh, that eats you. I didn't know. But it's in me already. So just like getting that knowledge makes you feel less confused. Sometimes you're like I am who I am, you know. And it's like, all these things have informed it. So I feel incredibly empowered. And it feels important for me to carry it forward. What that looks like, I'm still figuring it out. But it's not just about me, you know, I've got a legacy to protect. They got me this far. So I've got to do my part to care for it. And I think for so many black Americans that's been stripped away from us. And I always talk about African Americans, or this last race will no longer we've got ancestry.com. So go find yourself, right? Don't let anybody else tell you who you are. You can now go find out and do some work. It's all in the National Archives. It's great. Shot as a national shout out to the National Archives. On my Joan site, I discovered a Cherokee descendant. And that's how I realized I got like names from the National Archives. They named her. Her mother's name was bahala, which is a Cherokee name. It's just been so enlightening, you know? So I just encourage people to do it. Like I said, when you're ready to do I'll do with you, I think it's fun. If you are a creative entrepreneur, and your business is unique, why are you working with a generic accountant? One of the best decisions I made was who I would partner with on my taxes and my accounting. So if you're creative entrepreneur, you are growing your business, you're scaling your business. 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Because for those of us who aren't able to find the archives, I think that as you mentioned, you're like, I have this affinity for this food. And I didn't know why. We have an affinity for certain things. And we don't necessarily need to explain it. It's just a trust. Oh, that's probably our ancestor, your Aveda. You told me that Yeah. Right here. Yes. Yes, the tattoo. Yeah. When I went to Costa Rica, and we went, and we were enjoying her birthday and everything. And then we're outside. And I was like, What if we got tattoos? And then everyone's like, Alright, and so Dominique, in like, two hours, had the tattoo artists at the house. And they were like, they're ready for you. And I was like, Oh, we're doing this. And then I was like, Where should I get it? Okay, under the booth. So we're like, Okay, let's get Pura Vida, because that is the thing and Costa Rica. And it's just, like, just live a good life. And I come back home, and I'm starting to doubt myself. And I'm like, Why did I get this tattoo? And why did I get a red under my boob, and I should have gotten, like, under the flap, so you can't see it, but you can see it. And I was sharing actually with my mom and my sister. And we're right here in the kitchen. And I was telling them about it. And I was like you guys, too, I don't know. And then my mom goes, oh, what part of Costa Rica were you in? And I was like, oh, shoot, I don't remember. But I'll look it up. And she's like, Oh, well, you know, your nana is from Costa Rica. And I was like, oh my god, like, my grandmother is from Costa Rica. And I was like, so that's why I was called to get this tattoo is not an accident in my ancestry. Like it's in my blood. Yes. Like you are in your in your ancestors. Like girl get these this your first time you're here? Yeah. Oh my god. Yes. Right. Now, it hasn't changed your relationship with this time. salutely I'm like, Oh, my gosh, I love that. Yeah, it just empowers you. You know, I think your soul is, you know, that's a whole different conversation. Your soul is its own thing that travels through time any lifetime, ever. I'm like, they're like, I'm, I'm like, you only have one life. And I'm like, Well, in this life in this life. Yeah, more I got more lifetimes. But the personality I'm embodying now, my ancestors are important for this souls journey. And that's what I've discovered. In this search, right? I have a lot of things coming at me. I don't quite know what they mean yet. But you can feel it in your gut when it feels important for you to do some work or to learn something or to read something. So I think doing that ancestry work, will no doubt inform the work that I do going forward and is part of my purpose in some way. It just, it couldn't feel that powerful without being more important, you know? Yes. And when I think of DNA, to me, it stands for define North awareness. When you know that what's in your DNA actually informs your divinity and your north star and when you have that awareness, it's like, where is there room to doubt that whatever Are track you're on, as long as you're moving with your heart, your gut, your feeling your body, calling on your ancestors, asking them for guidance, if that's your divine North awareness, it's in your DNA. You live with it every day. And the intuition I do think is in my DNA, I've talked about this with you like, I feel like there's this really deep spiritual thread in the women in my family. And, you know, my grandmother passed in 2019. And I was putting together her obituary, and, you know, luckily, my cousin had interviewed her on camera and oral history. So important, guys, please interview your grandparents, I just want to take a little PSA, and please interview your parents and grandparents get their story. They act like you're doing a commercial right there. It's so important to know your family. No, just joking. But like, No, this is so important to interview your ancestors, oral history is the most important tool we have. So I was lucky that my cousin did that. And in that my grandmother was talking about her grandmother, who had this deep intuition and sort of knew things. And I think in black and Latino cultures that knowing that mysticism is like, super prominent. So for me, when I have these, like intuition moments, I'm like, Oh, my psychic, and me realizing, Oh, I'm not the only one. This has been in my family. Right? That's empowering. This isn't some weird thing about me. This might be my superpower. Right? I don't need to be afraid of this. Maybe I should lean into this, practice it, nurture it, you know, so yeah, that DNA just sort of like, there's a little thing like, okay, cool. You don't I don't think you should ever change who you are based on your ancestry. You know, like, if you realize, that ain't for me, you know, if you realize you're Swedish, like, you don't have to start dressing. Like that's too deep. But like, I think you can learn, it can inform? Yes, some Yes. Yeah. And I think that speaks to how a lot of times we can look externally, whether it is on the feed on IG, and we're looking there for the role models, or like, oh, what should I do next? Or how, when it's like, we actually have the answers here. And I think, before social media before we had this global economy, which there's so many benefits to it. And before that, we had the oral tradition, where we would literally sit around every evening in a circle. And the elders would share, here are the lessons here, the learnings, and we would take what worked for us what resonated and then leave the rest. And so what you're speaking to is this ability, where if we ever feel like we don't know what the next step is, or if we're logging on every day, and finding ourselves like, Oh, I'm not enough, or I can't do that, or I can't do, it may be that we need to look internally in our ancestry and talk to those who came before us. It's so to decipher, you know, what is for us? It's been so amazing, being an adult and spending time with my mom, because I am learning so much about myself through finally getting to know her, because when you're a kid, we're so self absorbed, or like the world rolls on me like I'm the star. So parents are stressed. Yeah, it's hard. Oh, my gosh, yeah. You don't know who they are when they're your active parent, because their teachers do the best they can. Yes, yeah. So it's like as an adult, being able to be like, alright, we Okay, let's sit on the couch, which we literally did earlier. And let's talk and like, tell me who you are. And even more, I just observe who she is. And it informs so much of who I am. And that actually gives me power to like, make more decisions or just feel great about the decisions I'm making. I've connected deeply, more deeply with both of my parents, me, my mom, I've always been closed. And we have more talks. I've sorted now that my dad gives me more advice. But it's funny how I am just both of them. And, you know, that creative part that I have. That's how I process and get through stress. And my mom does the same thing. And she modeled that for me, right? And then my dad has had like, such an ambitious career and done all these things. But there's those highs and lows. So I was talking to him about how you survived those lows. And he was just giving me I mean, my father was 87. And he's considerably older. So it's just wisdom. And you're like, what an untapped source I have not been using. Why haven't I been asking him to stuff sooner? You know, and it's like, yeah, look, to your family, look to your ancestry, explore that oral history. There are lessons there. That's important. That's why you are part of a tribe. You know, yes. Not for no reason. And yeah, and I think on the soul tip, that's why maybe I was born into this tribe to learn what I needed to learn from them. So don't let that opportunity pass you. Totally. And when you lose your grandparents are gone. You know, so it's important. So we're gonna choose to one word what is one word you want to choose to? Friendship? Friendship, and it's just been really fun. Like okay, choose pictures. Yeah. Yay. Oh. I told you I'm all mushy now. I know that made my heart warm. I know why you didn't need to be mushy either. Yeah. Feeling we both you know, so cry now. Commercials are like very emotionally beautiful about our future about what's next what do you see? Who is Britney? What's happening? What's the future? Well, the future is bright for Britney because she has a show called Britney. Oh and the third which she becomes a one neighs person she becomes a Britney like Oprah Britney bitch but written in New Britain new the new New Britain spelled correctly. br itt a and why for those curious. So the future Brittany has this show called Brittany. And it is an instant hit. Because, you know, it's been a tumultuous decade. For this country. There's a lot of healing that needs to be done on a lot of different levels. And future Britain is able to create a safe space for those conversations. So no matter who you are, you can come judgment free and we can dig in and we can unpack and we can heal collectively. We don't always agree but we respect right. That's and that's what I think we all are drawn to so the show's a hit. And Britney you know has several vacation homes is crazy. Where are they? Oh, you know Danielle is future Danielle is visiting future Brittany and these future homes so where I can visit your future? Oh, absolutely. Hello. She's got one in South Africa. She loves wine country. Oh, wine country. Okay. Wait, is that closer to Cape Town? Joburg? Cape Town? Okay. Yeah, more. Ooh, beautiful and lush, really beautiful. Mountains. You know, we like mountains. We do like mountains are human design. Exactly. That's there. And then we've got the big destination. We'll keep it we'll keep it with Jamaica. I like it. Yeah, my dad is farm right? I do. And I also I think cannabis can be a beautiful healing tool. And I like it fresh. I like I like it without all the chemicals in the hybrid. I just want some green out the earth. And so we've got a home there as it should be as it should be. Okay, so yeah, that's, that's really, it's all about, it's all about collaboration and connecting. I love that. So I'm gonna have one in London and one in Paris. I like dense cities. I like the essentially, like a change of scenery. from moment to moment, the inspiration not the whole year round, you know, pull up in August, September, you know, I'm saying, Paris. We're gonna go shopping. We're gonna have an appointment. You know, I'm saying and they're gonna have things that have been curated for us. It looks cool. Like, Miss Brittany. Okay, one name show. Miss Brittany. We have curated these looks for you. Would you like just have them? Oh, and you brought your revolutionary friend Danielle? Got a rack for her. Okay. curated for her. Do that. Oh, yeah, we're gonna we're doing I can't wait. Can we do this now? Absolutely. Why not in efforts of like, past future present? I think it's already happening. We just manifested when you are already in the dressing room right now. They're like looking in the mirror and they're showing each other. Oh, what? I love that top on you. You get it in three colors. That skirts? Are you wearing that to the Met Gala this year? I got something made for that. But you're right. Maybe the extra part. Oh, one of 101 of one. I love manifesting. This is exciting. Okay, we have to make this a regular thing. We're gonna future all the time all the time. Okay. Oh my god. Well, thank you so much for being on. I mean, from the moment we met in the greenroom at the blog, her event. It was love at first sight. We like dropped right in. It was like no one else was in the room. Like we just started. I sat down and we were just like, in it. We just dropped it. Your middle name is Danielle. My middle name is Danielle. You're an Aquarius, cancer rising. Same, same, same, same. Know what else? And you and your mom there? And I loved that. Oh, yeah. I love that. She was here earlier. Right? I did. I would love to meet her again. Yeah. But yeah, my dad always says, like attracts like, you just naturally are drawn to people who are kind of the same cloth. I think so I felt that with you. I was like, Oh, I can tell that she's an evolution. So actually, I want to flip the script. I haven't journalist and it's hard for me to ask to not ask question. So I think when we met in that greenroom, I was first drawn to the fact that you said that you were involving your like online transformation. I was super drawn to that. And just knowing over the last few months I've seen you, like dive into this new space. Oh my gosh, since 2000. Yeah. So I just want to know like, first How are you feeling about that? I don't know how you feel about the journey you've been on and where you're at Oh, yes. Um, all right, we flipping the screen, you're flipping it. So it's interesting because I would say, I felt a lot of anxiety around it. I have been the you know, Daniel Leslie course from scratch course business for like five years. And this is the girl who used to come up with a new idea every week. So for me to be in this one lane for so long, entering a new space, anxiety inducing. Luckily, I put myself in, or I called the men, I don't know how we got here, but I had people in my life who have kind of, you know, the scaffolding that had the buttressing of the building that is under construction, the people I called in, became those buttresses for me. And, like, they held me up, and they were like, so with this new collection, it's like, since 3000, I mean, it means a lot to me, because I have been on this journey of embodying the future, me now of like, establishing this new relationship with time because time is just a man made construct. But more of like, the space, we're occupying the fact that we have an internal self, the fact that future Danielle and Brittany are already existing, you know, in the fitting rooms of Paris. And so I think like when I thought about, since 3000, it wasn't a place in the future, it was just a space where we could access our past, present and future selves now, because that's what I wish for myself. That's when I'm at, you know, peace. And then the I mean, yeah, moving into the NFT space, I didn't get it for the first eight months, I was I still don't get it. I try. I try. The only reason I did was the buttressing, like the like, was a really close friend who was like sending me things, sending me things anyway, finally, after eight months, it clicked. And then like anything that clicks in my life, I was like, Oh, we bout to take over, like we bought. So I'm, I guess I'm, I am that person who is the creator. And then I think about ownership. And I'm like, How can I also create in this space and have like a piece of this, and then show others the way. So I think what I'm creating now is this, like NFT collection, I want it to look like us, there hasn't been one that completely embodies us, as black women, that is by black women, I want the artists, the 3d artists to be black women, they will be written into the contracts, the smart contracts, where they will be paid out in perpetuity for life for any future sales of that thing. I love this shift in art to where you know, you are an artist, you create a painting, it's sold in the gallery, let's say you're at the beginning of your career, and it's sold in the gallery for $5,000. And when that owner who's the new owner of your art holds on to that they're able to resell it, five years later, you're doing the work, you're building the equity, and they're benefiting off of it, and they can resell it for $100,000. And you don't as artists, you know, necessarily get a piece of that. So the beautiful thing about this new space is we can write in, we can write the artists into the contract and say, this was your baby, and you're gonna get paid for that $100,000 sale, million dollar sale for life, because you're going to continue building the brand equity. So I see that for us. I also see bringing in non crypto natives. So people, I look around in my friends circle, and I'm like people like you people like all my friends, it's like, Y'all are masters at your craft at the top of your game. And there's this whole new space. And I'm like, we have the opportunity to come into the space to invest in the space to be a part of this community. And what I want to do is make a collection where the majority of the collectors are us, our black women, break it down for us and create a community around it. Because my mission, when I think about like, you know, web to web three, people think about technology, sometimes as abstracting us further away from ourselves. So if you think about Instagram, web two, Instagram, Facebook, these are platforms that are owned by Facebook, and then we come on and it's user generated content. And I would think of IG in the earlier days as us putting on our best selves. So it's an abstraction from our essence, because it's like, oh, I'm going to posture. This is like the Renaissance painting version of me, which potentially pulls us further away from our essence. And I see this opportunity with web three to bring us closer to who we are doing a generative collection where we design different features, put them all together. It's a reminder that like we're all made of the same matter. And my question is, how can I help use web three as the opportunity for us to get closer to ourselves? So with the collection? Yeah, what I hear in this is like, you know, courses that was about, Danny, you built notoriety. The fan base wealth. And now it seems like since 3000, you want to pay it forward. You know, it's not just about you. It's like about building wealth for other people building wealth in the black community. Am I right with that? Like, it seems like it's a Payette, forward moment almost. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting, because even with the course business, when I started, yes, it was about survival. And I was like, I'm gonna share my gift and get paid for it. But actually, when I think about the course, and we asked people, what was your biggest takeaway, from course, from scratch, I thought it would be the money, I thought they'd be like, I'm against the money, everybody mad like, I thought it'd be like financial independence. But the number one thing they say is self acceptance. They reference the module on your culture ad, they say I learned that my story is important, and that it matters. And I learned how to tell my story. So actually, I think like the common thread of all the work I do, and everything I've been interested in is around identity. Because I know that with our knowledge of our identity, we can recreate whoever we want to be from moment to moment. And so with even a course business that, you know, it tells people Oh, you can create a course to make money. But really, when they get in there, the first lesson is, what is your story? Who are you, I'm going to help you retell your story in a way that's empowering. So it's interesting, because even in that business, it was about giving people the tools to create their new reality, and to reach and teach people no one else can, because they're like, I have had fibroids as a black woman, I'm able to share with other black women how to heal themselves naturally, you know, so they don't have to have the surgery, so they don't have to get on the meds. And there were no other voices that look like me who can do that. So we have women like that, or I'm a co parent, I'm a single mom, and I want to help other single moms do that. And I didn't realize this was a superpower of mine, I didn't realize like creating this healthy household was something that was actually an attribute that I can teach others and get paid for. So it's interesting, because this is like, kind of like just building on that it's around identity. What is your superpower? And how are you using it in since 2000? Oh, I would like to think that it is my ability to see myself and therefore see others. So I think a muscle I've been like, really like pumping iron on is self awareness. I think every day I grow more and more self aware where I'm able to catch myself, because I'm sitting in the observer seat, and I can see what I'm doing. And guess why I'm doing it, have a conversation with myself articulate it and then say, Okay, what's our path forward? How do we improve? So I think like, being able to see myself has luckily led to understanding myself and then accepting myself and less of shaming and judging myself, that's obviously always going to be a work in progress, but less of that. And so I think because I see myself I see others, like, because I can see myself in my darkest moments and articulate it and see that there's a why there's a reason it's not just because I'm like a foul human being. But like, there was a series of events that led to that there was a psychology that was formed because of what happened at a certain age, because parents are like, you know, the fourth grader in your class who said something bad about you, whatever, I think because the more I see myself, I'm able to see others and free others. I think my mission is to help others then see themselves understand themselves, articulate it, and accept themselves. And I think like with that we can have a more like loving, compassionate understanding world. Yeah, I think you nailed it on the head. That's one of the things that drew me to you. I saw you as like, Oh, she is herself. And it's hard to articulate that in the moment. But you're drawn to that. And I think just like seeing you in body, Danny, even if you are transforming and changing. It's still like, I can see who you are. And you're so confident in that. And I know that's probably not every day, I know you're human. But doing that introspection, and that self awareness work. I think a lot of people are afraid to do that. So I think that is your superpower is like you're not afraid to look inside and do that work. And then now we can see that all the beautiful things that come from that and inspire so many people. We had talked previously about my ancestry interest, and I love going back to learn about going forward, but you're already like, you know, 1000 years in the future. So what is so exciting about their future to you? And what do you learn about exploring the possibilities that are there? Wow. It's interesting, because I've never even I guess I haven't regarded it as the future. It's like I've always lived. Exactly. I think it's part of as an Aquarian. Yeah. But even as a kid, I remember now I have a language around it where I would do mental rehearsals. But at the time, I was like, oh, yeah, I would just like, you know, think about my book report that I was going to do in front of the class, Miss Brigante third grade, and you know, I'd be in my bedroom and I would like visualize myself doing it and how I was gonna say it and And it's like, that was future casting. That was mental rehearsal. And I think, you know, as an adult that just grew more and more right as, like the realm of possibility grew. So I've always and again, I guess that's my like funny relationship with time. I definitely have a very strange relationship with time unique. Yeah, okay, unique, we'll go with that. But you know what, it's one of those things where it's like, it has been very bountiful. And then also, maybe not, in certain instances, where I might have a long history in a relationship or something. And to me, you know, 10 years might be regarded as the same as like 10 days. But that's why I say strange. Yeah. And I think maybe that is me, not even having regard for, you know, time, but it's like, I'm just living in this space, whatever the space is, and it's multi dimensional, it's eternal, multi sensory, it really is. I mean, I think you can live in this five dimensional world where you just smell, touch, whatever, or you can allow yourself to participate in the things that are happening around you that you can't see you feel, but you know, is there. And I think it's really special about you, because I think we're in this moment where we are having a lot of progress happening really fast. And I think that scares a lot of people. You see a lot of people wanting to hold on to things stay stuck, you know, and then I look at you and like I said, you're just moving going in. So progressive. So what does it look like for you when you slow down? Oh, I feel like I'm doing that now. So I didn't even have that as a potential before. And I think a lot of that came from my mom, because in my dad, like they're both busy bodies is what I call them, but they're always in motion, which I love. You know, my dad is always present. And getting the most out of the moment, wakes up at 5am Every morning, you know, and gets the day going. Dances salsa is lively, like anyone who meets them. It's like, they know they're getting his fully just present self. And then my mom every day, it's like wakes up with okay, this is what I'm going to do today. This one I'm gonna accomplish and still doing like, went to a voiceover, you know, Conference in Atlanta, because it's going to be a voiceover actor now, and, you know, in his writing her book, and like doing all these things, so I think growing up in that household to me, there was no concept of like, quote, unquote, slowing down. I saw life as just in motion, your default state is motion. So it wasn't until now, I would say where I learned the value of stillness, and how that you know, spirit animal of the giraffe. Taking that big step that seems slow. But there's so much happening in the stillness. So it's been a recent thing where I've, like, quote, unquote, learned how to slow down, because I realized, actually, there, that's where the quantum leaps can happen. That's where you can really collapse time. Because when you're in the grind, and you can get into the Okay, someone's have to Okay, what's next? What's next? And you can't necessarily or it's more challenging to really think about, okay, what are the lessons? And how can I actually leap over here? Or maybe this isn't right for me, maybe it's not in total alignment of everything. Because one thing I'm learning is when I am fully in alignment, because I think I spent a lot of my, my life maybe doing things as I thought I was supposed to do, because I'm addicted to achievement, and whatever success is defined as, so I'm like, I'm gonna keep going even though this doesn't feel right. Even though like I'm tired, even though like I'm stressed, even though I have this funny feeling in my stomach, I'm going to push, push, push, push, but shaming myself for being tired. Now I think I had this like practice of being in pursuit of my pleasure. Asking myself does this feel good to do now? Is this for me to do? So the slowing down is really the listening. It's like, Is this for me? Does this feel good? And knowing that it's okay, if it doesn't? Yeah, does it allow you to run this new business with just more peace, more balance? What does it do for you to have that stillness and then still be as ambitious and still chasing your dreams? Yes. First it allows me to enjoy it. Yes, really, like soak up every moment. When reaching out to the designers actually, like spend time you know, diving into their work, like curating a message to them that speaks to their work, getting on the Zoom call, elevating them, edifying them. It's like me going on IG on my discovery page and like getting lost and like the designs and the fashion. Me embodying, you know, like, like, my passion for fashion and just like, I'm embodying my vision board, taking it from this is my vision board that I have over here to like, I'm going to actually embody it. You know, what does this 3000 Danielle look like? What does she sound like? What is she doing? And so I think that's been a big shift is like this whole process. It's been like, enjoyable. and still like pushing myself sometimes outside of my comfort zone because I know that that's where the growth happens. But those are more like short lived, whereas before is probably 80%, uncomfortable 20% But like now it's like, okay, 20% and comfortable 80% of like, I can enjoy this, like, this is amazing. And do you think that's because you run a business before? And there's a lot of learnings or just because you're at a different age now you're at a different place. You're different, Danny? Yeah, it's definitely all of that, I think. So my really good friend Tara, and I talk about how entrepreneurship is really a study and self actualization. When you run a business, you are faced with yourself in the mirror every single day. Any gaps in the business are usually a reflection of a gap within yourself. It took me a long time to realize that. So luckily, in conjunction with growing and running the business, I started doing the therapy, I had coaches that were in proximity to me, who were able to say, Hey, I think I see this habit that you are carrying forward. And another thing I did is I shifted my North Star. So my North Star used to be whatever was the business goal. So it used to be okay, we got to hit a million, then it was about to hit 10 million. Then I asked myself, well, what would it look like to shift the Northstar to having a 10 hour work week? What would it look like if I focused on that? Once I focused on that in three months, I had a 10 hour work. And I went from like 50 hours a week to 10 hours a week in three months. All I had to do is shift work smarter, not harder, right? I mean, it's so it's a simple thing to say. But you have to really change your life, you really have to put it into action. And that's hard to do. A lot of people talk it but you did it. And now it's self expression. So now my Northstar is how can I be my fully expressed self from moment to moment, and that's what guides me. So I see working, and I also see the crypto space exploding and NF T's and like, Danny, I want to be a part of it so bad. Like I'm researching about some bitcoin area, dipping a toe in. But it's intimidating. It is intimidating. And I think a lot of people are intimidated and scared of it. But then I see you like forging ahead in it. So with since 3000. How do I get to be a part of that? Like, is it for everyone? Like what is the kind of audience you're going after? Absolutely. So it was scary for me in the beginning? What got me let me ask you a question. What would you say is one piece of art, your favorite piece of art. And it could be a musical Broadway show or like a painting or a song a book? I'm getting me. Like, like a big piece of art that has like changed your life? Your favorite piece of The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison. Oh, yeah, I pick it up monthly and read passages of it and cry at the pros. It is beautiful. And I connect very deeply to the message. So yeah, lucid. So that right there is what inspired me to get into NF, TS, the art. I saw works of art that I identified with that I saw myself in. And so I see since 3000 is being that for you. And for anyone else that's like, Oh, I'm about this space. But on the NFT side, it's to me the art and it's the self expression of people who look like me, who maybe have been overlooked before who haven't had a stage and for you to become a art collector. And I think like art collecting has been this like inaccessible, that's what a wealthy that's for like Jay Z, whatever, Jay Z changed that. He was like, go buy art. And I was like, okay, yeah, I started buying art, told me. So now I'm going to start buying. Because Danny told me that. So that's like the switch is like, I think that is what makes it exciting. And the thing about I think with physical art, when I think of buying a painting, it's a very independent solo experience. I buy this piece of art, I put it into my home and when it comes in my own home sees it admires it awesome with NF T's especially with a collection, since 3000 is going to be a collection of 3000 pieces, where when you become a collector of since 3000, you will be a sense 3000 A part of the since 1000 Genesis group. So you are now joining a group of 3000 people who have shared values who also see themselves in that art. And we're also I said my mission is to have web three bring us closer to ourselves. So I did Ascend's 3000 sip and paint for my birthday shout out to how to get it into me. And yes, so We're gonna do those for our collectors. I want all of our collectors to know each other because I have so many amazing people in my life and we don't get to traverse. We don't get to interact. And I want to bring that experience here. So that's the difference. So when you're buying it, you're buying into this new like community is the interaction. Yeah, that is beautiful. So it seems like is this phase one of the business? Absolutely. So what does like phase two phase three look like? How much do you want to grow? Yes. So what I see now, okay, tell me, we're gonna have this collection. Shaunda gonna keep it. Okay. We're talking about Shonda Rhimes. Okay. So Shonda is going to see the collection, she's about, oh, my gosh, this is amazing, seamless. But no, but really, I mean, my dream is for it to live on as many mediums as possible. So whether you're a collector, or a consumer of a show, you know, a Netflix Netflix series, that is the Sims 3000 series, I had a vision for bringing, you know, writers here doing an artist residency, sitting around the table and writing the stories of the cast of since 3000. Because they all represent us. There are like what we look like when we access our past, present and future selves when we like call on our ancestors when we call on our future selves, because we already have the knowing. So in a world where we have society telling us, we don't know shit, or we can't have it, or we're not good enough, we're not enough. We're like, no, no, like, since 3000, is the space where we can access that knowing. And so what would it look like to have a show with characters that showed that to us that look like us that we could relate to? That would be like a part of of the vision. I'm excited for you. I'm proud of you. Oh, I'm inspired by you. I mean, it's really exciting to meet somebody who is, like I said, constantly going in learning about themselves, and just trying to bring other people around them. I mean, the future is this community collaboration thing. We're both touching on that with creating these spaces where we can be ourselves. And we can have these moments where we can unpack and grow together. I mean, that's such a powerful, beautiful thing that's come out of the last few years, maybe, and I'm just excited to see where you go next. Thank you for letting me take over your oh my god, thank you for taking it over. Oh, my God, an honor to be interviewed by Brittany before the Brittany show. Can I be on? Can I be like first week can I be on? Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. You're a regular contributor. Yeah, I want to do you have a sense 3000 segment? To say, Yeah, I think we just manifested something. I so appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you, Danny. Listen, sometimes life be life in and we do not know what's coming down that road next. Well, that's what happened to me in 2016, when I was unexpectedly laid off from my job. And I was six figures in student loan debt. I had no savings. And I didn't know what was going to happen next. Now, luckily, I had this little voice inside of me at that time, that I couldn't ignore, and it was telling me to take the leap. It was saying, use this as your opportunity to build your business. Use this as your opportunity to create your dream life. And so I believe that life happens for us, not to us, and that nudge in my spirit, I should listen to it. Luckily, I did. Fast forward to today, I have a business has made over $20 million, and I've helped over 10,000 people create their online businesses and their dream lives. So do you want to learn how to turn your story into an online product and launch in 30 days, head on over to course from scratch.com Ford slash since 3000. I want you to join us on this journey. So you can listen to that little voice inside of you too. So go now Do yourself a favor of course from scratch.com forward slash since 3000.