you're feeling like you're not worthy. And I'm telling you that that's in your blueprint to feel like you're not worthy. You're not doing anything wrong, you stop making yourself wrong. So early on in life, it is the compound of the wrongness that keeps you from, from experiencing the moments of rightness, it's those moments of rightness that pull you through. That's hope. That's, that's faith. She's badass. So when I first met Paige, she was already killing it. And she was transitioning to online. And now she's a leader in her space, she was one of the first to bring human design online. And now she is talking of like articulating it and talking about it in a way that no one else is she's contextualizing it in a way where you can actually apply it in an empowering way from an empowering space that fits you. Whenever I tune into her whether it's in person or online, her energy is jumping off to where I elevate and I can show up as my full self because she to me, she occurs as showing up as her full self, you're very infectious and intoxicating. Yeah, and I think that's like such a great way to put it. So I wanted to bring her to since 3000, because Sims 3000 is all about embodying the past, present and future you now. And when I see Paige, that's what I see like she is everything we have more matter inside of us or whatever as like all the galaxies. Like to me page is a in real life 3d, like representation and reminder. If so, there's so much that we can talk about on today's episode. I wish we had eight hours, we could fill them with things. The gamut is everything from business strategy, like I want to ask you about your tick tock like she blew up on tick tock, like, oh, no, I don't know how happy she I mean, I know you know, even if it's but it's all by design. Yeah. So she like globe on tick tock, if you right now are either building your business scaling your business, or you are in a place of transition, where you're seeing this, this this trend and this shift, and you're not sure what's happening or like my paid ads aren't working like to these webinars not working like they used to this pricing is a little suspect. These other leaders I used to follow, I don't know any more pages, really a representation of what I think at a macro level is this shift of the cosmos, where we are going into the divine feminine, where we are leading with our just who we are, which changes from moment to moment with like our whole selves, bringing our home, not just this aspect, not just here's my spreadsheet, here's my numbers, but it's the whole thing. So because of that she's built multimillion dollar businesses so we could get into the strategy of that she's running ads profitably, we get into the strategy of that, yeah, she's built her tic tock, we could get into the strategy of that and monetize those followers. And then there's the other side with the science of human design, the science of being yourself is whatever call it yeah, get into that. Then there's relationships with yourself with and then in romantic relationships, how to grow that we could get into that parenting the way she parents for kids, we can get into that, too. There's so much and I'm so excited for you to tune into this episode. So it's all coming to you right now. Welcome to since 3000. I'm so excited to bring you today's episode. But before we do, I need to make sure you've heard about member up. So community driven products are the future. But Facebook groups are a thing of the past. 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You know, why do you know that Google Images was invented as a result of that moment, because people were googling the dress and Google was like shit, we need like a way to categorize and deliver images because there were so many searches she caused, right she was the effect that created Google images because of that moment with the dress. So when I think of like me, like really stepping into being the effects so when you called it fame, and I always thought about fame of mattering to those who matter most to you or just you know, so it's like it's not being known amongst the entire world, it's to whoever matters to you. You are to, I had a whole brand called fame hacks. But I'm more like, girl. This is like a decade ago where I would invent a new thing every week. Oh, I mean, so one of my things was a Maxi. I love that though. I love it. But that's how I defined fame. I was like, I don't want to be famous, like in the traditional sense. But to me fame is like when you are known amongst those who matter Yeah, to you. And then maybe a lot of people matter, like the world matters to you, or like, the things that you want to do are bigger. You know what I mean? And so then, yeah, then your level of fame would match that. So I am famous. Yeah, you heard it. Sorry. Sorry. For all the people that don't want to see me be famous. I have a mug that says tears for the haters. could drink them for breakfast. Maybe I might gift it to you. Yeah. Okay, I've received that for sure. Yeah, it's been interesting. And they came out of nowhere. I mean, I've been doing this for 10 years, and just lately, so I must be close. You know what I know. That's how I know I don't it doesn't bother me. I got like upset because there are people that I know in real life. And to me that bothers me. Because I'm like, you know me, why would you even questioning my integrity or like who I am. But all I look at it as as I'm just getting close. And it's just an opportunity to exercise and reaffirm who I am what I want to be Oh, okay. When you say just getting close? What does that mean? I'm like, that I want to be so the version of myself, the next of net level version of myself is so just cannot be available for anybody else's opinion of what she's doing and what she's saying and how she's being or it will completely hinder the work I have to do in the world and the work that I get to do in the world. And because I'm teach you have to be a model of what you're teaching and what my next level work is, is helping creatives make money being themselves so I have a new masterclass is called paid to exist. Like that's getting paid to exist, you really are. And that's why I was joking about my feet because I was like, But why wouldn't I not? Why would I not like if you're gonna take recording on my feet? And I'm just existing here, and that would make somebody's day. And they would be willing to give me money for it. Why would I not? Yes, but why would I not? Why would I? Why not? Yeah. So Elysian did this really great interview on the bank, last podcast was Legion, she coined the crater economy. Oh, god, yes. She's like, massive, and web three, and she's a business investor. And she's like, there at the end, they said, give us advice that you would give to the YouTube creators. And she's like, just start and I'm like, that's sweet. But there's a reason they're not just starting. There's a reason they haven't already started. And that is what's missing in the space station, and the entire conversation. Yep. And web three. And all of this is the creators are stifled, they're in pain, they're struggling, they're intoxicated, they're, you know, they're depressed, you're not gonna have enough creators if we if we don't start addressing that to make the crater economy. To have an economy you have, like, we have our little bubble and our little vacuum online that we have. And we really don't understand how it's so small. I love how you hit on the just start, what's missing from the conversation. So I have this like theory for some Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Yeah, we have the levels, and they start with things you need for survival. So shelter, water, food or water than shelter, then I think love and relationships belonging, and then you know, self actualization, I'm probably missing a level but you get the drift. I asked the question of what if we flip the pyramid? And we start with the question of who are you have the self actualization? Because what I realized is, we are taught to first due to have to be, and so I've done all these things, and it wasn't until I made the money, then I was, you know, exposed to the people who said, the most important question is, who are you? And that's when I started the work. And I asked myself, What if I was taught this from out the womb? So that if possible, we entire mission is that, that it's so much bigger than like me being online and these things? It's almost like how can I bring this to people as soon as possible? So that's why I make the conversation so accessible and practical. Like I'm not sitting here like human designed or a little bit. I'm like, Okay, well, you're feeling like you're not worthy. And I'm telling you that that's in your blueprint to feel like you're not worthy. You're not doing anything wrong. You stop making yourself wrong, so early on in life. You know, it is the compound of the wrongness that keeps you from from experiencing the moments of rightness, and when you it's those moments of rightness that pull you through. Wow, you know, that's hope that's that's faith in You don't have a lot of that when you're being told that you're not supposed to be saying this or that you feel unworthy, but just get it together, like, just tell yourself some affirmations. Like people don't even have access to the internet. And we're just like, it's on the internet, like, you have obviously never been in community with very poor people. Because they don't have the internet, go to the library. And what if it's blizzarding? Out? You know, and how do they get to the librarian? Do they have a coat to get to the library? Nobody's thinking about those things. And so that's always on my mind is like, how can I get this information? I would like to just give it all away. Like always just give all the information away, and just put it out there, and then make money existing, essentially, like, it's it's my goal. I think it's just starting schools. Yes, yes. But the school systems aren't set up. For us. I want to go back to one thing you said about owning what I heard is, in even in that question of who are you there's an opportunity to own our full selves, which honestly was a big part of the inspiration for this, like since 3000, of like, owning our past, present, and future, and also what you're saying, which is, what is a part of our design? So the biggest nugget I got from you, you came in you present actually right here, you presented in right there, in my living room for the CEO retreat. And you talked about how at a cellular level, we're addicted to a certain state, like our cells are addicted to a certain state. And you in that conversation, I identify that, wow, on a cellular level, my body is addicted to a state of stress and anxiety. Yeah, it's adapted to it. Yes. And if anything, everything will be amazing. And I will be like laying down taking a nap in the afternoon. And then the mind will just start and I'll just be like, wait a minute, why am I feeling and then I'll just like, create an issue, so wrong for doing that. But I have to remind people that that's your body trying to survive. And so if you don't go into the hole of a bad person, why haven't having these intrusive thoughts and apologizing for who you are, when your body is just trying to stay alive. It's that acceptance of who you are and who you're being in the moment that actually gives you the opportunity to choose a new thought. But when you go into I'm, you know, I'm so stressed out, and I should be relaxed right now. And I have I have all the money. I have all the things I want. And I'm still trying to make something wrong, even a relationship like the best relationship, and I'm still sitting at home, trying to find something to make myself feel rejected and disappointed in him. Because that's how I'm so used to feeling that my body is just like food. It's like any other addiction. So just like acknowledging that I am I have the capacity to live with this and I am I have a strong capacity or possibility of insecurity. So I realized that so when I'm feeling insecure, I just say I'm feeling insecure. Well, that's so freeing. I would tell them all the time, like I feel insecure right now. I don't I'm not again, I've been that's why I'm acting crazy. Because I just I feel insecure. So I'm curious, what is his response? When you say I'm feeling insecure right now? I'm trying to think of what he says. But it's mostly along the lines of I'm sorry. And you know, if he doesn't, if he does something to make me feel insecure, which is almost it's literally never I was making when I went and hurt my own feelings. Like I'm just scrolling his Instagram, looking for something that happened before he met me. And I'm like, How dare you? Comment on this girl? Literally told her that she was pretty like he gave her a compliment. Like, he wasn't even being like, it wasn't even like sexual. I wasn't like, Hey, babe, like it was just like, you're like God, dang. Like, it was just nice. And I was like, you see the same things are that you say to me, I mean, he literally does everything in his power, to secure me and to affirm me, and to make me feel loved. He can't do those things. I think that's another important thing is like, it doesn't matter how secure he makes me feel if I'm dead set on being insecure. And all he can ever do is uphold that feeling of security. So yes, devoted to my feeling of security. Wow. He's devoted to my family's security. Yeah, he's devoted to my security. So he makes it a priority that I feel secure, or I feel supported or I feel taken care of. But I have to make myself feel supported taken care of first and he will uphold it and he's devoted to it. But when I'm feeling really insecure, and I feel like I feel ugly, or I feel whatever I am in that moment, and he's like, You look so beautiful beam. I will pop him in the face. Just like he can't do anything. He's like, Please make my nose bleed. But like it's not gonna help like you can't make me feel secure when I'm dead. So I'm feeling insecure in that moment, or I just do my body is dead set. I'm feeling insecure in that moment. So that distinction, you tell us about that distinction. Yeah. So my body is used to this sensation of insecurity, which for me is a visceral, it hurts my belly. It's just like a tension in my belly. You know what it feels like when your heart drops into your belly? Oh, I feel like I've been feeling this all week. Yeah, so it's in my belly. And so my body gets used to that it adapts to that. And it doesn't know good or bad, right or wrong. Only my thoughts make it bad. And so then the thoughts that I have, are he you know, he's lying to me, he wants to be with another girl, whatever that like he like she's hotter than me. Whatever your mind trends tries to explain and put meaning on whatever you're feeling. Yeah. And then it tries to uphold it tries to keep it. So it's this loop that it gets into. And the thing is, when our body is stressed, or anxious, or it's in fight or flight, we actually don't have access as much access to or executive functioning, to choose a new thought. So it's actually really difficult to get out of that loop. But I know as That's why I teach people to just have like, one or two very easy ways to regulate yourself. And sometimes it's alcohol, sometimes, but people have P don't have a regulate yourself, and then how it's someone regulated. So salco Yeah, it's like a drink, and you're loosened. Like you're loosening up a little bit. You're not so like, I love that you use that example. Because for me personally, like I have felt a little bit of like, shame or like, Oh, that's so basic, like for me to be like, you know, if I have a drink or a couple drinks, and I'll feel better, like if I'm at a party or social setting, and I'm like, I should feel like I belong in the room. I should feel I should feel, but I don't if I have a couple drinks, but I'm like, Why do I need a couple of drinks to feel? And I would have shame around? Yeah, I get what you're saying. No, this is a strategy, though. Yeah, it is. As long as you look at it as a strategy and not a coping mechanism, not coping, I'm just saying, I want to be able to choose a new thought right now. And the only way to choose a new thought is have access to executive functioning, and maybe just one drink will light me up. So I can choose a new belief. So like, that's one way but people people regulate their nervous system in many different ways. It's that society will make that wrong. And like there's this hierarchy, this spiritual hierarchy of ways to regulate your nervous system. And that's just like, fuck you. Yes, you know, to me, you're the one that's keeping people in trauma, because you're, you're, you're making them feel wrong, or around their coping mechanism. Now, once they removed the shame around the alcohol, then they could choose to maybe not have the alcohol, maybe they could choose something else. But they're in the shame spiral. It's once you remove the shame and the guilt around the thing, is when you could actually remove the thing if you wanted to, we actually had this conversation yesterday, I was like, I personally have a drinking way more than I have in a very long time I was in Maryland, yeah, while trying to maintain a gluten free working. So I'll have but it's more than I have in a very long time. Because before I met, Jesse wasn't really drinking them. Not that he brought that into my life. But musician energy. We just go to a lot of shows, and I find shows are more fun when I have a few drinks. And normally, but I was like, you know, it's borderline, it's getting to be a problem, not the alcohol being a problem, my thoughts around the alcohol are starting to be a problem because it's maybe that cause and effect really, like if I have these drinks, then I can show up this one to me that that connotates to me, the absence of control over myself or command really not even control. And, and also I'm able to drink more and feel okay, the next day. And I was like, okay, like this could be a problem, because I'm going to start being a functioning. Do you know what I mean? Yes. So it's this ability to be like, Okay, I feel I need a drink right now. Or I need to go stretch. So having like one or two or three, coping or regulating exercises, I don't care what they are as simple and as accessible as they can be if you have those. And you know, you're doing it so you can change your thought process that I think is healthy, or correct for you. Yes, this is so good. So, first, so we're talking about regulating your nervous system, which means giving yourself the ability to choose a new thought. So if you're in a pattern of I'm feeling insecure, or I'm feeling this, I'm feeling my heart drop in my stomach, for me, I word I call it it's anxiety, that's how I experienced it, and my brain has named it anxiety, I'm like, This is bad, this is terrible, you're stressed. So what we're saying is we each have developed strategies to regulate ourselves. So we can choose a new thought and say, you know, I'm ready or whatever, we build strategies and systems and habits around it. And I think like again, you know, picking up the drink isn't as a habit. I would love to hear the spectrum because you mentioned how there are this is and I've noticed this too, there is a spectrum of practices and habits. And there's a spectrum of society says this She's great. And this is not Yeah. So what are some regulating practices habits that you're aware of that you know, people use? Or that they could use? If someone's watching this? And they're like, Oh, this is new for me. Yeah. What are some things, some things that I do? Personally, I haven't been. I'm in like this phase of regulating in the way that I don't typically regulate, which is, you know, having a drink, maybe. But I would stretch in the mornings, or I would just stretch or I would, or you'll see me sometimes do this. Or you'll sometimes look like this. Like, there's just little things we do music, dancing. Push dancing is huge for me. And I stopped doing it because I was making this tick tock dances forever. And I just stopped, you know, we stopped doing the thing. That feels good, because we started to reach our yield good, feeling good. And our nervous system is like we're so it's like, not beating yourself up for that and be like, Yeah, I did stop dancing for three months, because it did feel really good. Or it's just getting right back into it without the shame or guilt. So pushing up against a wall is good for people dancing. He plays music. And just like creating killer crafts, talking about just water coloring the other day, things that just there's an IE. Like I've been eating, being in a healthy relationship has actually completely dysregulated me. So I have been because I was so used to unhealthy. Oh, my goodness. So I've been just regulated nonstop since probably December until just recently. How do you know when you're dysregulated eating and coping? Everything's coping. So it's like I'm eating? I don't I'm not doing the habits that make me feel good. Because I'm trying to feel bad because a relationship feels good. Wow. Because you know, and I'm so I'm so used to feeling disappointment with men. So now I'm just trying to feel disappointed with myself. And the fascinating thing is, I fucking know all of this is happening. I'm thinking like, one of the things I love about you is how self aware you are. Yeah, it's like, but I always tell him to him, like I there's one thing to be self aware. And there's another thing to think about it. He'll be like, Wait tickets just like, Yo, I know what it is. I am still choosing the food. Like, I'm not going to stretch. I know I was at the same so okay, my one of my regulating habits is hookah. Yeah. So when I got out of my relationship, my seven year relationship, and I had the year of like, who am I? And it was this question of, well, what brings me pleasure, and I put myself on a pleasure pursuit. And I'm like, How do I because you know, I had this amazing person who brought joy to my life. And I was I was relying on the external source of the joy and the happiness and the humor and everything. Meanwhile, you know, I might be hormonal or just like moody or like hypersensitive, you're emotionally watery. So you have up you're just up and down. It's up your spine every day, you haven't you just, it's the knee, it's the making yourself wrong for feeling the things that's like, you're just not gonna feel the same our to our to our to our, and I've started to accept that and be like, Oh, okay, this is how we're feeling now. And I think so I asked myself, okay. And one of my quests was just like, well, let me see what brings me pleasure. And so what I found was like sitting here, you know, on the couch, who got galaxy like music. And but I remember I've said this to friends, where I'm like, first of all, I feel a little bit of shame around it. And I'm like, Don't worry, I'm just doing this for now. Until I'm ready. You know, until like, for that today, as if, because of their judgment. So anytime you're apologizing, because of their judgment, it's actually your judgment. So all judgment, judgment. Yes. Because they don't care. They don't give every but we're all in our own worlds. We actually don't care. And if they do, bring it back to you. Again, it's what's going on with them. And it's it is and sometimes I'm like, What is going on with me? You know, do I maybe am I maybe feeling a little out of it, I will always ask myself, like, do I tell the truth. And sometimes most of the time, there is truth. But sometimes it's just them projecting. And it's just me to uphold that new version of myself or that new belief or whatever that is. But if we could just remove shame and guilt and judgment, period, and that's the thing is, it's our judgment around the thing and the beliefs were telling that we have around the food, like, I swear, if I just looked at the food, no matter what it was, it was like, my belief is that this is healthy for me. And that this is going to nourish me. And as I eat it, I'm going to shed this weight like I believe that believe if I get my body into full alignment around that before I eat the thing, that thing won't have that effect on me at all. It's my judgment that the thing is bad for me, it's gonna be unhealthy for me, and I struggle with that I've probably the last like five or six months of Everything's bad for you. Is it not? Like if you think like, everything is bad, like the preservatives and I'm like, This is not serving me. Thank you because I will do all or nothing. I'll just eat all I'll eat whatever I want because all of its bad. So I'm going to eat what I want. But what if none of it's bad and it's all just what we're making it out to be? I'm just gonna try it. I'm just gonna go for it. That's kind of what I'm doing with alcohol, like alcohol is just like it's, I'm making it into a poison or bad for you. It's like, what if it's just a medicine? What if it's just a thing? What if it's a placebo? 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And then just like try to remember you are the scientist and you're the subject of the experiment. So you're crafting the experience. And you're in the experiment. Yes. And now guess what the what the scientists does every day Exactly. makes a note in the Journal Well, what were the impact? What was the impact of this experiment? How do we feel but but but are there any modifications we want to make for tomorrow and we did this again, that was such a healthy practice for me is self awareness and observation. And that what it really is email, it's just detachment. We stop identifying we're like, and that's what it really all thoughts have to be are just thoughts and it really actually is. So emotionally, when you're in a high you're a magnet for high vibe thoughts. So you'll just like attract high vibe people high vibe thoughts. When you're in emotional low, you'll seek out in your brain low. And so if you could just use it as a benchmark for wherever you're emotionally so sometimes I that's how I know I'm in low emotionally, or I'm dysregulated is mostly by the the quality of my thoughts. What is the like? What is the frequency of my thoughts? Not a judgement? It's just how do I feel? How does that make me feel my body heavy the tension? Or does it make me feel free light and my body is not good or bad? How does it make me feel? One thing I've noticed is before I would say a few years ago, even as recent as a few years ago, I didn't have the language around this. I didn't have language and actually we're talking about Brene Brown and the language around emotions. And I didn't have language around my body emotions. People just should be given the vocabulary. Like when they're born. And yes, and we're and we're not. And so oh god, there's a couple threads here. So well, one thread is the separation of mind and body and how growing up in particular maybe like Western civilization, I'm sure other places but let's just say here I would say I was taught that my mind is the authority so I can figure it's like an iota and I'm like, oh you know just oh your mileage? And if I was crying, it would be no, no, you're gonna look weak, you're gonna, you're gonna, they're going to take advantage of you. And then no, like, you can figure anything out. So my mind was the thing that was elevated propped up as the authority. And therefore I had no connection or very little connection to my body. I want to ask you that, like, how often do you say, I feel? Like just the two I feel before anything? How often do you say that? Now, more often than ever? Yeah, this is the most connected I've ever felt with my body. I finally have even first the awareness that the authority is in my body, the inner authority is here. Yeah. So now I have that awareness. And now I have language around it. It's still not sophisticated language, literally, it's like, you know, like, five year old or maybe like a sap level five year old. But you know, it's advanced for vibro. But it's like, I like it's very limited. Like, I feel anxious, I feel stressed, I'm excited. Or I'm at peace. I think those are like my MO. So if we want it, I've learned this. If we want to expand our experiences, we expand our vocabulary for those things. And so I stop saying I feel good. I'm like, No, I'm just gonna only ever just feel good. I'm only gonna have just good experiences. And so, Tony Robbins and one of his very, very, very, very early books. Has, we call it high def language and my courses. So high def high definition mean, it's like you're at high def like you're the brightest. Ah, yeah, like or D, like, when there's high death and low death. So we don't make it good or bad. We're just like, when you're low death, things are just black and white. They're not they're not on a spectrum. No, it's just black and white. It's like it's like a camera. You know what I mean? It's just a different. It's the way even view or the house landed on the witch. So there's high death language and then there's low def language. Y'all got that? I did. Like I said I was much good number one and Wizard of Oz. It was my first line in a show ever. Oh, my gosh, it was not we thank you very sweetly for doing it so neatly. Mine was you killed her so completely, that we thank you very sweetly. Oh, and that was like right after the house. So girl I know. I know. About that out. Okay. Yes. But I want you to I challenge you to expand your vocabulary in with your with your low depth feelings. Your high def feelings. So Google the emotional spectrum. Yeah, it's, it's a it has all these words. And there's colors and all spectrum. Yeah. So you'll be like, This is our drunken history camp. Yeah. Go ball. Yeah, Americans, not Americans, bad song. It's probably American. Emotion, emotional, good. All of the emotional spectrum, there's going to be colors. And so because some people can't identify their color, like my kids, I'm like, How do you feel right now in Florida, we like read, you know, read me and see, you know what I mean? So red is on the spectrum. And that could just go to red and like, do you feel angry? Or do you feel, you know, frustrated? Or, for me, it was like, do I feel anxious? Or do I feel nervous? Or do I feel it there's the anxious isn't a feeling it's a sensation. And I just blanket everything that feels wrong or bad or how you're saying surface? Underneath it be like, what are you actually anxiety is just the other side of excitement? Right? It's literally the same frequency. It's a low def, it's the low def, and it's a spectrum of excitement. Okay. And it's the anticipation, Myron golden. Yes, I love to. I love him. So it's the anticipation of an unfavorable outcome. So when I'm getting anxious, I'm like, Well, what am I anticipating is going to happen, that's unfavorable in my mind, what am I to judge as unfavorable? And then in that moment, once you regulate, have a drink, you can then okay, or have have a little puff. You can then choose what your what you to be excited about. So there's always the excitement is there and it's available for you. We're just choosing the anxiety because that's where we feel comfortable. So the energy the frequency is that's why I'm like everybody's not having what they've created. So you're disappointed but because you have disappointment, you also have acceptance, you also have Pete whatever the end of it is for you. It's just you're not choosing that it's their access to this, right. You literally have the emotion, it's right there. But you're labeling it and you're experiencing it as disappointment, but you could actually be experiencing it as love and acceptance. If you looked so I got my biggest story was like always being feeling disappointed by men and like they were not protecting and providing for me, and they were just always disappointing me they I could never count on them. What do you mean your story? My story how you know the story exists is because it keeps playing out over and over again. So I kept being with men and being disappointed by them. So that was my favorite story. Wow. Because it proved You're right. Yeah, every time. And then it just it's like this loop. But I only started with my mom because my mom did everything she was she was anxious. So she height over function. And so my dad couldn't do anything. So he under functioned. And then the story is we can't trust man, you just got to do it yourself. Wow. So for me I could that was story was I just men can't they won't provide a protect. And of course, that became like my reality because that was a story. So I'm like, Well, if I if I have the capacity to be disappointed, then I have the capacity to have admiration and to be accepting of men. So I would go out of my way to look for ways that are protecting me. The worst, like the worst ones. And I was like, what he is protecting me from him. He knows he's always like, wow, or one of the biggest ones was he's willing to sacrifice his life to be the villain. So I can heal what a hero and I could love him. And I could really love him except him for that and like just genuinely appreciate him. And from that place of appreciation and, and love. I didn't care to be with him. Wow, I didn't need to be you didn't mean I was like, Well, I don't need that disappointment anymore. i This feels better. And I would be so overwhelmed with love for him not for him rejecting me that I thank you so much for like being like rejecting me. And he's like, you're welcome. a hold on you genuine appreciation. Genuine, unconditional love. He like he wanted to be like around me more. And I got more of what I was appreciating him for. And we didn't end up together because I just didn't need that lesson anymore. And I didn't need to be like that. But I changed that story. And so it's so funny because my story was that men can't do anything. And you just take care of yourself and I literally let him do. I handed him my banana this morning. I was like here to open What did I try to do? Oh, I tried to open the coffee. I tried for like a second. I was like here. I just give him everything. I wait for the doors to be open. They love me probably no, he was carrying my bag my purse through the airport. I love it. Yeah, I did. But my mom, that's so opposite of my mom. She could never. And that's how I knew that I had healed it not because it's good or bad. But I was being and allowing a whole different experience when the pattern had been. And that's also why it was so difficult to be with him. I was like this is boring. I'm not getting the I'm not just how I'm never gonna be disappointed in you. So then I wouldn't I was trying to find ways to be disappointed him. So disappointed. you comment on that? 2017 telling her she looks nice gusting to go back in time. And have self respect. I said something like, you just it's just like thirsty, and that people are gonna see that. And they're gonna judge me. So bad. It's funny. But I didn't judge myself too harshly for it. That's good. He had that. Wait, how fast? Did it take you? Or how long did it take you to what was that like a day I drove I tried not even I tried to not even have the conversation with him when I was experiencing it. But he kept trying to text me and talk about like, let date the day to day because we weren't to get he was on tour, which makes it harder, because we didn't have that connection. So I was just regulated from having right and constantly touching me or like taking care of me. I was just having to take care of myself. But I was just dysregulated. And so it just made it worse. And I tried to regulate myself. I really did. I tried to not even have the conversation with him. But he just kept texting me. I was being a bitch. Like I was just like one wording answer because I was like, I don't want to talk to you right now. Like I'm moving through it. And then then we had the conversation. He was just blown away. He was like, What can I do? What? What is happening? You're like, I don't know what to do here. Yeah, I was like, and you apologize and like, you don't apologize. What did you do? He didn't do anything. Then I got mad that he was apologizing. I was just I was like, this isn't about you know what's gonna happen, I don't know what to do. Chaos. It's chaotic. It can be it's fair. It's real chaotic sometimes. But I know that and I the thing is, I love myself for it. But this is happening with all of them. The only difference is some of us have language around it. We have awareness around it, whether it's in the moment or you know, months later or a day later. That's the difference. Yeah, like we're all in this chaos. Oh, and I've like that's why I'm say like I think if people were more real in social media, and we get into this positioning, I just went off on my stories about this. I was like people are We're so busy trying to be the authority that they don't see what's going on. Because right now, relatable rapport building authentic connection building marketing is the what's converting. And so these authorities are like my sort my psychological positioning, how am I gonna make this sale without making you feel like a pleasant? God, so they're so worried about like not saying the wrong thing, or like, you know, and that's what they can't stay on me they're like, What did she do? You should not be talking about your sex life like you should not be fully expressed like this. And I'm like, speak to yourself, Man like I this is your keep going? That's fine. I don't obviously don't know what I'm talking about. Just because I so expressed, and I'm so authentic that people think I have no strategy. My strategy is that you think that I have no strategy. My strategy is that you think that I'm just being real, and I am. But like, I'm doing it strategically. Also, it's by design. We are all by design, if we allow ourselves to just be but they don't know what this this positioning, I think you're seeing it. And you're like, I want to be a person. Yeah, I want to be a full human on the internet. I want to be, I want to show up fully as me in all ways. But you've all always just been the authority and posture, like the posture was like, listen to me, I'm an expert. Yes. And if I even veer off and become a human, for five, you'll stop viewing me as an expert. And then that will affect my whole entire, like livelihood and all those things. And that's terrifying. We're teaching people how to do ads. That's good. I saw entry level paid media, but it's, it's because people are just they don't, they don't get it. They want to do it to opt in, did it and I'm like, you could just pay to put yourself in for those people beating yourselves boosted. And then you have an audience of 100,000 people that just like target with a product that you're using. It doesn't have to be a product that even created it could be a partnership with somebody like my retargeting audience I sell for queer form school. I have dating reform schools. Yeah, fuck we reform schools for women who keep attracting buff boys. So they're not we're not reforming the fuckboys because I have an investment in another program called Nice Guy reformed school now, and it's run by nice guys. It's run by a woman who coaches men who are nice guys who are also just see if they're the same. And it's just as like, lethal as fuckboys. It's just a different presentation. Oh, the nice guys are probably more insidious and scary because Buck was or like I am, it's obvious, the nice guy is like, No, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be nice at first, and I'm gonna manipulate you by being nice. So but it's the same core wound. And so with women, the reason they're attracting it is because of their same core wound. So I did fuck away from school with my two partners. Because I wasn't an expert in dating, I was just an expert in attracting fuckboys. I taught women how to you notice the patterns of who they're being and who they're attracting? And I'm like, guess what? It's you. So once you shift who you are, you stop attracting them. And that's where the empowerment piece comes up. Like we're just talking it always is about when you read you claim your agency. Yep. Like when you say I have agency over this, I contributed to creating this situation. Yeah. And this pattern, and that's so empowering. Yeah. Instead of being like, I'm the he did this to me. How could he do this? How could she do this? I created this. Here's why I did that. Oh, hello. Yes. Cheers. We didn't do cheers. What are we just a one word what you're choosing to teach her? I need to choose a better word. I would use a word thinking. I'm gonna you know what I'm choose for you. Infinite. Oh, that's my word for you. I infinite. Just use that on some of my brand new this morning. Infinite. For me, yes, immortal. Love that too. What about you and you're acknowledging the mortal and it's like, why would we even that's kind of like when people say knowledge, you're thinking outside the box or like you're breaking the ceiling. I'm like, what? Like, I didn't even know there was a ceiling on a box because then it's a conversation word on my vocabulary. Speaking of mortals, though, so I have a really good friend and she has a scorecard for for dating, right. And so she's using a database using database like she likes. Oh, well, I guess she's a scorecard because she's very technical minded. And so she, you know, like a hiring scorecard. We all got scorecards, girl. We just call them different things like you know, your non negotiables in your niche, that kind of thing. But she just called it us, I think because it's in a spreadsheet. And she's technical API. I mean, she probably does break it down like KPIs She probably does. She's probably like, How many times have you opened the door 50% of the time you're not being accountable, you're not being accountable and when you own it, you open more doors. But no, it's not that deep. It's literally just like, what everyone else not different. That's a different word for like, negotiables on it, whatever. So and she's a whole wire We're very intentional about it. Absolutely. And she has a great way. So what however, one piece of feedback she gave me, she went on, like her first date from a matchmaking service. Yeah. And she said, Yeah, you know, he was too much of a mortal for me. And I was like, It's too human. Yeah. And I was like, and I was like, I understand that. And I'm like, how are you going to articulate that feedback to the dating service? Like, will they understand it? She said, Well, if they're vibrating at the frequency to understand they will, but if not, then I'll have to find another way to put it. And I'm like, yep. So it's funny that I love that. I love her. She's like, Well, yeah, I mean, if they're not, did you read the Grimes article? So this was in the context of the Grimes article very familiar with Grimes in her whole vibe. Yep. So if you were to think mortal, mortal, she's definitely a mortal, right. But anyway, yeah, read it. Because that like when she used the word of, or the language, he was too much of a mortal for you. I was like, I had just read the Graham's articles. And it made sense. Exactly. Without that context. I was like, okay, but with it, I was like, Oh, yeah. And I feel like, I know that I'm, I feel Yeah, like, that's when I feeling the most, not myself is when I'm being the most mortal. When I'm being like, so human, as I'm trying. I'm a Libra moon and rising, I'm always trying to find the balance between human and not human, you know, because I fully believe I'm not of this world of this world. But I came here to be here, and to be human. And then I feel like I'm depriving myself of the experience, like how much is too human? Then the Virgo just starts like a we're analyzing it. So it's a whole thing. Yeah. I guess so. Maybe I was blessed that I'm an Aquarius. And so we naturally live on another planet? Do you already believe we're alien beings and other worldly? What is your future? Essentially, undefined is my current membership. We're in the space of like, personal development and things like that. How are we actually building wealth? How are we closing the wealth gap? Like, are we building wealth? Yes, but Are we closing like the poverty and the wealth gap? And how are we supporting creatives? Because the creatives are the ones that are starving, literally, they don't. And everybody has a kernel of creativity. How can I start with the personal development aspect with undefined, but then how can I create a Dhow? Yes, so I want I want to create a marketplace in the community. So there's no trade of money. So if a woman wanted to start a business, all she would have to do is join the the Dow and then she could give, you know, there would be like a bartering system, but it's the token. So you would have a designer helping an organizer, and like, you would just have everything you need, and you would just be trading, because what we're moving into is a collective, not an individual society. And so you know, just these bargain, not moving, I mean, moving into and also revisiting because that's where we end like to forget that and had the Enlightened like, era of the creatives had this, this, they would be wealthy, and they would have the money and they were able to create more art, and their world would just be more beautiful place to live in. And yes, kids would not grow up seeing just their parents go into work and making money they would see their parents just making art was sitting around making music, and then also being able to pay the bills and things like that. So I think that, that's that. And for me, Human Design has always ever just been a way to stop judging yourself, for who you were born to be. And then to have a little bit of a map to be more of who you're being. And so when it comes to NF T's in the collection, I wanted to make like have NF T's for designs, like human design like you for where you're at right now. So like your present self would be an NF T. But then also, when you hit your next level, your next level becomes an NF T. And it's like people can invest in your growth. I love that I mean, and then you're also investing in your growth. So then they would get, we would essentially gamify and reward people for doing the personal development work basically, like, here's more tokens for this, and I think undefined will probably ended up it will just be a dowel. So you pay to get in, there's going to be so many, there'll be so many memberships probably. And if you want to get in, you have to sell your membership, essentially, but I want the information we're teaching inside the membership to be accessible. Outside, if that makes sense. Yeah, the only way to get in is like you'll get you'll get extra attention and all this stuff and all the value in that. But all the information we're teaching you inside of the membership is out there in the world. Like that's always ever been my most important thing was that everything I teach inside of my courses I've already taught outside of it. I love that it's just an organization modified the organization of it. So that's really we're doing we're kind of going in the same direction where it's like, how can we bring personal development into web three. And then if you think about creators influencers, just how they're gonna be able to make money by just creating and somebody can just be like, I really like that so then they like it. And then they're in bested in it, it's this ownership economy, where everybody has an investment in the things that they like. And so if you'd like or share something, then you have an investment in that art that tweet that they created. I know that's what Elon is doing. So like, it's more about that. Well, I mean, a tweet will be art, a tweet will be an NF T, a tweet will be, and so everybody that likes it will, it will increase in value, and everybody that likes it has an investment in it as it increases value. So those people they may not get the millions of dollars, but they'll get the the hundreds and the 1000s. And so they're paying with their social capital. This is the shift from that like industrial economy industrial economy to So Esther Perel calls it the identity economy, and I call it the culture ad economy. So it's almost like, the more you you are, the more you are rewarded. And so these tweets is an example of that, where it's like, the originality of your thought determines how much you're rewarded for that, and Legion calls it the crater economy moving into the ownership economy, well, we all take ownership in each other, and like, we're all in CO creating it, to me, it's true co creation. So people like the music, just use making, they can invest in him by simply just, you know, buying his NFT. And so at work of a song, if they really believe in a song, they could just pay, you know, a small amount. And then they're invested in it, they get a royalty from it forever, as it is, as they have an investment in doing well. So advice to share it exactly Blaze up. And then everybody gets rich, all of them. And like that's to me, that's how we close the wealth gap or, and the poverty levels. And it's by actually people being who they are monetizing who they are. And we have to shift our entire paradigm around that. And that's, to me what the human design and undefined does is shift the paradigm of value. I love that. So that's, yes, small things. And that's the music. That's the music thing to know, I have to eventually I'll get on my calendar saying, Yeah, you're gonna have to buy that. You're gonna have to pay eath for that for sure. 20 Yeah, going for 10 starting at 10. But the thing is, I build a community that would pay for that. And that's why I'm trying to tell people to start now. Okay, tell the con people where to find you. Because No Seriously you guys pages amazing. Like I said, intoxicating infectious. Yeah, you're gonna love everything that she has to offer. So yeah, where's the best place to find you so you can find me on Tik Tok? I am Paige. Michelle. And then you can find me on Instagram. I am Paige. Michelle. And those are the two places I would send you. Thank you so much. I really appreciate you have like, I mean, you're you are building worlds. And I am I feel blessed to be a part of your world. And so anytime I get to spend with you is a true blessing. And I feel like I grow and expand every time. So like, thank you so much. Thank you for having me and seeing me from really early on, like you saw it and that you really helped me see me through that, at least in the space for sure. 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